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	<title>Comments on: gnome-vfs is going down, down, down</title>
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		<title>By: Matt G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/10/26/gnome-vfs-is-going-down-down-down/comment-page-1/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is awesome! Rock on Alex...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is awesome! Rock on Alex&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/10/26/gnome-vfs-is-going-down-down-down/comment-page-1/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a modern environment, the most common use-case of an archive file, by far, seems to be to download an entire folder structure conveniently from the internet (Witness archive files full of things like .jpegs and .mp3s-- which don&#039;t compress much, if at all.). XP&#039;s more folder-like treatment of archive files has struck me as one of the features worth imitating if at all possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a modern environment, the most common use-case of an archive file, by far, seems to be to download an entire folder structure conveniently from the internet (Witness archive files full of things like .jpegs and .mp3s&#8211; which don&#8217;t compress much, if at all.). XP&#8217;s more folder-like treatment of archive files has struck me as one of the features worth imitating if at all possible.</p>
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		<title>By: alexl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/10/26/gnome-vfs-is-going-down-down-down/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>alexl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nona: 
I even got a recommendation from some of the kde people to not support it, as they had a lot of problems with it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nona:<br />
I even got a recommendation from some of the kde people to not support it, as they had a lot of problems with it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nona</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/10/26/gnome-vfs-is-going-down-down-down/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>nona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>about the &quot;chained uri&quot; thing:

That&#039;s quite a shame! I understand that you feel a dedicated app for archives can be better, but I suppose the same could be said about FTP, webdav or samba (a dedicated ftp client could be better than gvfs ftp: method).

I personally like the consistency URI chaining gives, and I use it all the time (really!) with the Midnight Commander (ssh+tar+gz+...). I was hoping the mc would one day be able to migrate to gvfs, but it would be a shame that it would cost them a nice feature.

That said, I realize you probably got a very good insight on what a vfs should be like considering Nautilus&#039; heavy use of it. I just regret this one feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>about the &#8220;chained uri&#8221; thing:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s quite a shame! I understand that you feel a dedicated app for archives can be better, but I suppose the same could be said about FTP, webdav or samba (a dedicated ftp client could be better than gvfs ftp: method).</p>
<p>I personally like the consistency URI chaining gives, and I use it all the time (really!) with the Midnight Commander (ssh+tar+gz+&#8230;). I was hoping the mc would one day be able to migrate to gvfs, but it would be a shame that it would cost them a nice feature.</p>
<p>That said, I realize you probably got a very good insight on what a vfs should be like considering Nautilus&#8217; heavy use of it. I just regret this one feature.</p>
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		<title>By: alexl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/10/26/gnome-vfs-is-going-down-down-down/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>alexl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a foo: 
That is the plan at least.

Matthias Adler:
Various people have ideas how to solve this. 
The best solution I&#039;ve heard involves adding a mount option like &quot;udata&quot; this would not be handled by the kernel, but just echoed back in /proc/mounts. Then you can set mount options like -o udata=nopreview,notrash and apps can honor that for this particular mount.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a foo:<br />
That is the plan at least.</p>
<p>Matthias Adler:<br />
Various people have ideas how to solve this.<br />
The best solution I&#8217;ve heard involves adding a mount option like &#8220;udata&#8221; this would not be handled by the kernel, but just echoed back in /proc/mounts. Then you can set mount options like -o udata=nopreview,notrash and apps can honor that for this particular mount.</p>
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		<title>By: a foo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/10/26/gnome-vfs-is-going-down-down-down/comment-page-1/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>a foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will this be in 2.22?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will this be in 2.22?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias Adler</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/10/26/gnome-vfs-is-going-down-down-down/comment-page-1/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias Adler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you shed any light on the most frustrating issue with any fuse-based network mount and nautilus being that files are treated as *local* and thus prompting to nautilus to preview them ? (Besides them being relatively slow and tending to simple hang-up in certain situations) 

If I remember correctly this issue (nautilus not always guesses &quot;correctly&quot; if a file is actually on a local harddisk or accessed remotely) was discussed in a mailing list or so in quite some detail a while back. 

Besides that: Rock on !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you shed any light on the most frustrating issue with any fuse-based network mount and nautilus being that files are treated as *local* and thus prompting to nautilus to preview them ? (Besides them being relatively slow and tending to simple hang-up in certain situations) </p>
<p>If I remember correctly this issue (nautilus not always guesses &#8220;correctly&#8221; if a file is actually on a local harddisk or accessed remotely) was discussed in a mailing list or so in quite some detail a while back. </p>
<p>Besides that: Rock on !!!</p>
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		<title>By: alexl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/10/26/gnome-vfs-is-going-down-down-down/comment-page-1/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator>alexl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nona: 
There is no support for chained uris like there is in gnome-vfs. That model is complicated and never quite worked well in gnome-vfs. Also, I think it generally will be a better user interface if a dedicated app like file-roller handles archives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nona:<br />
There is no support for chained uris like there is in gnome-vfs. That model is complicated and never quite worked well in gnome-vfs. Also, I think it generally will be a better user interface if a dedicated app like file-roller handles archives.</p>
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		<title>By: nona</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/10/26/gnome-vfs-is-going-down-down-down/comment-page-1/#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator>nona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really nice looking!

I suppose there is a tar method like with current gnome-vfs? What happens if there&#039;s a tar file in the samba mount? will there be a second mount point for the tar file under .gvfs/ ? Will Nautilus be able to browse up and down into the tar file?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice looking!</p>
<p>I suppose there is a tar method like with current gnome-vfs? What happens if there&#8217;s a tar file in the samba mount? will there be a second mount point for the tar file under .gvfs/ ? Will Nautilus be able to browse up and down into the tar file?</p>
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		<title>By: David Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/10/26/gnome-vfs-is-going-down-down-down/comment-page-1/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>David Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome!

Is there any chance of unifying this with KDE&#039;s thing. Something like this seems relatively desktop-agnostic, and it would be great if GNOME and KDE&#039;s implementations of this sort of thing were compatible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome!</p>
<p>Is there any chance of unifying this with KDE&#8217;s thing. Something like this seems relatively desktop-agnostic, and it would be great if GNOME and KDE&#8217;s implementations of this sort of thing were compatible.</p>
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