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	<description>Dave Neary's view of the world</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schroeder</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/07/12/getting-up-and-running-with-a-crm/comment-page-1/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.compiere.org/&quot;&gt;http://www.compiere.org/&lt;/a&gt; is the most mature ERP/CRM system available and blows sugar away. I won&#039;t even bring up the fact that Sugar is quasi-evil in that they changed from MPL to the Microsoft Shared Source License and so shouldn&#039;t really be considered OSS software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.compiere.org/">http://www.compiere.org/</a> is the most mature ERP/CRM system available and blows sugar away. I won&#8217;t even bring up the fact that Sugar is quasi-evil in that they changed from MPL to the Microsoft Shared Source License and so shouldn&#8217;t really be considered OSS software.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Neary</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/07/12/getting-up-and-running-with-a-crm/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Neary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;br/&gt;Compiere depends on Oracle 10g and Java 1.5.0 - so, um, thanks, but no thanks. Sugar is also a weak free software supporter at best, so they&#039;re likely out of consideration. So that leaves us with CiviCRM, for the moment. Which I&#039;m going to try seriously.&lt;br/&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compiere depends on Oracle 10g and Java 1.5.0 &#8211; so, um, thanks, but no thanks. Sugar is also a weak free software supporter at best, so they&#8217;re likely out of consideration. So that leaves us with CiviCRM, for the moment. Which I&#8217;m going to try seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: David Geilhufe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/07/12/getting-up-and-running-with-a-crm/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>David Geilhufe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;br/&gt;Some of the answers to Dave&#039;s questions about CiviCRM:&lt;p/&gt;&gt; Adding a new CRM administrator or user&lt;br/&gt;CiviCRM works within Drupal or Joomla. Within Drupal you would just create the appropriate user role and give it the appropriate permission. Creating a new CiviCRM Admin is as simple as granting a user that role. &lt;p/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&gt; Importing an address-book, and filtering GNOME contacts from non-GNOME contacts&lt;p/&gt;CiviCRM has strong, wizard-based import functionality from csv. So you would create a csv from your source and then import that csv.&lt;p/&gt;The best thing would be to take out all the non-Gnome contacts from the csv. Alternatively, you can import them into an &quot;Import&quot; groups and people can decide whether they are Gnome contacts at a latter date.&lt;p/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/import?reset=1&quot;&gt;http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/import?reset=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p/&gt;&gt; Adding a new contact&lt;p/&gt;You can create individuals, organizations or households.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/addI?c_type=Individual&amp;reset=1&quot;&gt;http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/addI?c_type=Individual&amp;reset=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/addO?c_type=Organization&amp;reset=1&quot;&gt;http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/addO?c_type=Organization&amp;reset=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p/&gt;&gt; Associating a new event (IM conversation or mail) with a contact&lt;br/&gt;  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/view/activity?activity_id=2&amp;action=add&amp;reset=1&amp;cid=36&amp;log=1&quot;&gt;http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/view/activity?activity_id=2&amp;action=add&amp;reset=1&amp;cid=36&amp;log=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(sample of logging a call)&lt;br/&gt;You can also create custom activities (IM) and log those.&lt;p/&gt;&gt; Receiving a notification when a contact you&#039;re related to has some new content added (being able to watch people or groups of people)&lt;p/&gt;This would be a good community contribution. We just implemented basic logging for record create/modification, so the basics are there and you could build the functionality from CiviCRM APIs.&lt;p/&gt;&gt; Associate people with events (centralise information about user-group participation in events)&lt;p/&gt;This is accomplished easiest through Drupal.&lt;p/&gt;&gt; Receive event-based notifications (&quot;I&#039;ll get back to you at the end of the month&quot;)&lt;br/&gt;   &lt;br/&gt;Schedule your activities for the future.&lt;br/&gt;Actual notifications would be a community contribution.&lt;p/&gt;Here is a community contribution that builds a task list from pending activities:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/Task&quot;&gt;http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/Task&lt;/a&gt;+List+-+Listing+of+Scheduled+Activities&lt;p/&gt;&gt; Integrate with desktop apps (mail, contacts, IM) via a web service API&lt;p/&gt;We have SOAP working for most of the APIs... you just would have to excercise them.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/CiviCRM&quot;&gt;http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/CiviCRM&lt;/a&gt;+Public+APIs&lt;p/&gt;Integration with desktop applications would be another great community contribution :)&lt;p/&gt;Find out more: www.civicrm.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the answers to Dave&#8217;s questions about CiviCRM:
<p />&gt; Adding a new CRM administrator or user<br />CiviCRM works within Drupal or Joomla. Within Drupal you would just create the appropriate user role and give it the appropriate permission. Creating a new CiviCRM Admin is as simple as granting a user that role.
<p />&gt; Importing an address-book, and filtering GNOME contacts from non-GNOME contacts
<p />CiviCRM has strong, wizard-based import functionality from csv. So you would create a csv from your source and then import that csv.
<p />The best thing would be to take out all the non-Gnome contacts from the csv. Alternatively, you can import them into an &#8220;Import&#8221; groups and people can decide whether they are Gnome contacts at a latter date.
<p /><a href="http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/import?reset=1">http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/import?reset=1</a>
<p />&gt; Adding a new contact
<p />You can create individuals, organizations or households.<br /><a href="http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/addI?c_type=Individual&#038;reset=1">http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/addI?c_type=Individual&#038;reset=1</a><br /><a href="http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/addO?c_type=Organization&#038;reset=1">http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/addO?c_type=Organization&#038;reset=1</a>
<p />&gt; Associating a new event (IM conversation or mail) with a contact</p>
<p><a href="http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/view/activity?activity_id=2&#038;action=add&#038;reset=1&#038;cid=36&#038;log=1">http://demo.civicrm.org/drupal/civicrm/contact/view/activity?activity_id=2&#038;action=add&#038;reset=1&#038;cid=36&#038;log=1</a><br />(sample of logging a call)<br />You can also create custom activities (IM) and log those.
<p />&gt; Receiving a notification when a contact you&#8217;re related to has some new content added (being able to watch people or groups of people)
<p />This would be a good community contribution. We just implemented basic logging for record create/modification, so the basics are there and you could build the functionality from CiviCRM APIs.
<p />&gt; Associate people with events (centralise information about user-group participation in events)
<p />This is accomplished easiest through Drupal.
<p />&gt; Receive event-based notifications (&#8220;I&#8217;ll get back to you at the end of the month&#8221;)</p>
<p>Schedule your activities for the future.<br />Actual notifications would be a community contribution.
<p />Here is a community contribution that builds a task list from pending activities:<br /><a href="http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/Task">http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/Task</a>+List+-+Listing+of+Scheduled+Activities
<p />&gt; Integrate with desktop apps (mail, contacts, IM) via a web service API
<p />We have SOAP working for most of the APIs&#8230; you just would have to excercise them.<br /><a href="http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/CiviCRM">http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/CiviCRM</a>+Public+APIs
<p />Integration with desktop applications would be another great community contribution <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
<p />Find out more: <a href="http://www.civicrm.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.civicrm.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Javi Vázquez</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/07/12/getting-up-and-running-with-a-crm/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>Javi Vázquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave!,&lt;p/&gt; as far as I could seen (after a 15 minutes demo visit), CiviCRM is very simple and easy to use. &lt;p/&gt; Maybe it&#039;s enough, but just in case, you should try Tutos also, a free software groupware/CRM solution: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tutos.org/homepage/index.html&quot;&gt;http://www.tutos.org/homepage/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p/&gt; Tutos is not a specific CRM solution, but a grouware/CRM/bugtracker. We have used it for the last 3 years, as CRM and groupware. &lt;p/&gt; A problem in Tutos is that it doesn&#039;t have a strong community supporting it. The last version was released more than one year ago.&lt;p/&gt; If you want to know something more about Tutos characteristics, please ask me, I am an advanced user :)&lt;p/&gt;javivázquez</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave!,
<p /> as far as I could seen (after a 15 minutes demo visit), CiviCRM is very simple and easy to use.
<p /> Maybe it&#8217;s enough, but just in case, you should try Tutos also, a free software groupware/CRM solution: <a href="http://www.tutos.org/homepage/index.html">http://www.tutos.org/homepage/index.html</a>
<p /> Tutos is not a specific CRM solution, but a grouware/CRM/bugtracker. We have used it for the last 3 years, as CRM and groupware.
<p /> A problem in Tutos is that it doesn&#8217;t have a strong community supporting it. The last version was released more than one year ago.
<p /> If you want to know something more about Tutos characteristics, please ask me, I am an advanced user <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
<p />javivázquez</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Lobo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/07/12/getting-up-and-running-with-a-crm/comment-page-1/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Lobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;br/&gt;Dave:&lt;p/&gt;Your best bet for opinions/support/question with regard to CiviCRM is our mailing lists. You can sign up at:&lt;p/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://lists.civicrm.org/lists/lists&quot;&gt;http://lists.civicrm.org/lists/lists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p/&gt;Our permissioning model matches drupal&#039;s permissioning model which is fairly simple (but quite powerful) right now. We hope to move to a more comprehensive ACL based solution in a following version&lt;p/&gt;Our wiki at &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.civicrm.org/&quot;&gt;http://wiki.civicrm.org/&lt;/a&gt; has a fair amount of information and comments. the community is pretty strong and growing at a nice rate. Would be awesome for the gnome group to use civicrm :)&lt;p/&gt;lobo&lt;p/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;lobo&lt;br/&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave:
<p />Your best bet for opinions/support/question with regard to CiviCRM is our mailing lists. You can sign up at:
<p /><a href="http://lists.civicrm.org/lists/lists">http://lists.civicrm.org/lists/lists</a>
<p />Our permissioning model matches drupal&#8217;s permissioning model which is fairly simple (but quite powerful) right now. We hope to move to a more comprehensive ACL based solution in a following version
<p />Our wiki at <a href="http://wiki.civicrm.org/">http://wiki.civicrm.org/</a> has a fair amount of information and comments. the community is pretty strong and growing at a nice rate. Would be awesome for the gnome group to use civicrm <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
<p />lobo
<p />lobo</p>
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