Comments on: Spam stuff http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/08/30/spam-stuff/ Dave Neary's view of the world Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:48:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: ugh http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/08/30/spam-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-322 ugh Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/08/30/spam-stuff/#comment-322 Gaaa! You are sponsoring a spam-friendly provider. It is only fair to hurt you. Gaaa! You are sponsoring a spam-friendly provider. It is only fair to hurt you.

]]> By: Boris http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/08/30/spam-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-323 Boris Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/08/30/spam-stuff/#comment-323 Not only my ISP (Free) is on several RBLs, but my own IP too is blacklisted (Free gave me a static IP 3 years ago).<br/>Reasons : massive virus spread. I suppose a friend came at home with an infected laptop, and the virus spread as soon as the wifi connexion was active. Anyway, it took me weeks to get my IP removed from RBLs.<p/>So, I agree : RBLs are evil. Not only my ISP (Free) is on several RBLs, but my own IP too is blacklisted (Free gave me a static IP 3 years ago).
Reasons : massive virus spread. I suppose a friend came at home with an infected laptop, and the virus spread as soon as the wifi connexion was active. Anyway, it took me weeks to get my IP removed from RBLs.

So, I agree : RBLs are evil.

]]> By: Paul Jakma http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/08/30/spam-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-324 Paul Jakma Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/08/30/spam-stuff/#comment-324 I use a lot of blacklists, but I agree with you - they should (generally) not be used to drop email (least not anymore). <p/>We have better tools now than we did before, bayesian filters particularly. Blacklists should, by and large, be used merely as inputs to those classification tools, rather than be allowed by themselves to quash email.<br/> I use a lot of blacklists, but I agree with you – they should (generally) not be used to drop email (least not anymore).

We have better tools now than we did before, bayesian filters particularly. Blacklists should, by and large, be used merely as inputs to those classification tools, rather than be allowed by themselves to quash email.

]]> By: Arne http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/08/30/spam-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-325 Arne Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/08/30/spam-stuff/#comment-325 I 100% agree that blacklist are just annoying yet worthless junk. <p/>There are lists that run some tests on your mail server and if they find a theoretical security issue: BAM - blacklisted. Not that you ( the user ) have any chance of fixing it. If you complain, you get the stupid answer: "Well, go to your ISP so he fixes this bloddy thing that jams our internet."<p/>What really puzzles me: The only mail filter I tried that used these blacklist was spamassassin ( forced to since Evolution unfortunately relies on that ). The results are worthless at best - or worse since ( as you know ) there are many false positives. I think that random() would generate better results than spamassassin. So the RBLs do not even work good enough - why on earth use them for anything?<br/> I 100% agree that blacklist are just annoying yet worthless junk.

There are lists that run some tests on your mail server and if they find a theoretical security issue: BAM – blacklisted. Not that you ( the user ) have any chance of fixing it. If you complain, you get the stupid answer: “Well, go to your ISP so he fixes this bloddy thing that jams our internet.”

What really puzzles me: The only mail filter I tried that used these blacklist was spamassassin ( forced to since Evolution unfortunately relies on that ). The results are worthless at best – or worse since ( as you know ) there are many false positives. I think that random() would generate better results than spamassassin. So the RBLs do not even work good enough – why on earth use them for anything?

]]> By: Chris Parker http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/08/30/spam-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-326 Chris Parker Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2006/08/30/spam-stuff/#comment-326 Parkinson's Law:<p/>"work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion."<p/>If you create the perfect efficient system, it will only stay that way for so long until someone figures out how to complicate that system again. Of course, this beautiful complexity that arises out of efficiency keeps a good deal of us employed. Parkinson’s Law:

“work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion.”

If you create the perfect efficient system, it will only stay that way for so long until someone figures out how to complicate that system again. Of course, this beautiful complexity that arises out of efficiency keeps a good deal of us employed.

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