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	<title>Comments on: Property and investment</title>
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	<description>Dave Neary's view of the world</description>
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		<title>By: Pádraig Brady</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/01/04/property-and-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>Pádraig Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave.&lt;p/&gt;The equity equivalent to property mortgages&lt;br/&gt;are equity options: &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/y59mzt&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/y59mzt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p/&gt;Yes, you can buy options as well as receiving&lt;br/&gt;them from companies you work for :)&lt;p/&gt;You make the insightful point above,&lt;br/&gt;that both mortgages and options are&lt;br/&gt;a risky investment method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave.
<p />The equity equivalent to property mortgages<br />are equity options: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/y59mzt">http://tinyurl.com/y59mzt</a>
<p />Yes, you can buy options as well as receiving<br />them from companies you work for <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
<p />You make the insightful point above,<br />that both mortgages and options are<br />a risky investment method.</p>
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		<title>By: bart</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/01/04/property-and-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator>bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... risky investments indeed. as anyone knows who has played Railroad Tycoon. For those who haven&#039;t : in that game you can buy shares from Railroad companies with borrowed money. However when the stock price goes down and the value of your total assets exceeds a certain ratio to your debt you get a margin call from the bank : a forced sell just as with property and usually at great losses...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; risky investments indeed. as anyone knows who has played Railroad Tycoon. For those who haven&#8217;t : in that game you can buy shares from Railroad companies with borrowed money. However when the stock price goes down and the value of your total assets exceeds a certain ratio to your debt you get a margin call from the bank : a forced sell just as with property and usually at great losses&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jpl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/01/04/property-and-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>jpl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only heard this referred to as buying investments on &quot;margin&quot;, not leverage.&lt;p/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_%28finance%29&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_%28finance%29&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p/&gt;Anyway, most investment banks (E-Trade, etc) will offer margin for anyone with an account with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only heard this referred to as buying investments on &#8220;margin&#8221;, not leverage.
<p /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_%28finance%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_%28finance%29</a>
<p />Anyway, most investment banks (E-Trade, etc) will offer margin for anyone with an account with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/01/04/property-and-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, the best way to invest in houses and land (I hate the term &quot;property&quot;; it totally removes the point that people usually *live* there) is to buy a house.  It&#039;s not like you have a choice in the matter--you have to live somewhere, and you may as well get *some* money back at the end of it.  But taht&#039;s probably where I&#039;d end it, except as maybe a (small!) method of diversifying my portfolio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, the best way to invest in houses and land (I hate the term &#8220;property&#8221;; it totally removes the point that people usually *live* there) is to buy a house.  It&#8217;s not like you have a choice in the matter&#8211;you have to live somewhere, and you may as well get *some* money back at the end of it.  But taht&#8217;s probably where I&#8217;d end it, except as maybe a (small!) method of diversifying my portfolio.</p>
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		<title>By: Stéphane</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/01/04/property-and-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Stéphane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.immonot.com/tendMarche.do&quot;&gt;http://www.immonot.com/tendMarche.do&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: AP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/01/04/property-and-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, the property market is at its peak. Chances are prices will go down.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bulle-immobiliere.org/&quot;&gt;http://www.bulle-immobiliere.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, the property market is at its peak. Chances are prices will go down.<br /><a href="http://www.bulle-immobiliere.org/">http://www.bulle-immobiliere.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Neary</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/01/04/property-and-investment/comment-page-1/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Neary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antoine, bulle-immobiliere has been saying the same thing for the last three years - &quot;just wait until the crash, you&#039;ll pick up the same apartment that pigeon bought for 150K€ in a few months for 120K€&quot; was what they were saying back then. Now they&#039;re saying &quot;just wait until the crash, you&#039;ll pick up the same apartment that pigeon bought for 250K€ in a few months for 200K€&quot;.&lt;p/&gt;The only problem is that they&#039;re talking about *the same apartment*.&lt;p/&gt;Excuse me if I don&#039;t put too much faith in people who refuse any discussion of viewpoints not in agreement with theirs.&lt;br/&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antoine, bulle-immobiliere has been saying the same thing for the last three years &#8211; &#8220;just wait until the crash, you&#8217;ll pick up the same apartment that pigeon bought for 150K€ in a few months for 120K€&#8221; was what they were saying back then. Now they&#8217;re saying &#8220;just wait until the crash, you&#8217;ll pick up the same apartment that pigeon bought for 250K€ in a few months for 200K€&#8221;.
<p />The only problem is that they&#8217;re talking about *the same apartment*.
<p />Excuse me if I don&#8217;t put too much faith in people who refuse any discussion of viewpoints not in agreement with theirs.</p>
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