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	<title>Comments on: Facebook &#8211; yet another useless social network?</title>
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	<description>Dave Neary's view of the world</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/07/24/facebook-yet-another-useless-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-800</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rule #1 of Facebook: Don&#039;t talk about Facebook.

Seriously though, nearly everyone I know at university uses it. It&#039;s like a second email account; something so basic that you wonder how you managed to survive without it.

Because everyone uses it, it&#039;s almost a digital interface for the real world. It&#039;s more social than email simply because it&#039;s more public and out in the open.

Dunno, that&#039;s my take on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rule #1 of Facebook: Don&#8217;t talk about Facebook.</p>
<p>Seriously though, nearly everyone I know at university uses it. It&#8217;s like a second email account; something so basic that you wonder how you managed to survive without it.</p>
<p>Because everyone uses it, it&#8217;s almost a digital interface for the real world. It&#8217;s more social than email simply because it&#8217;s more public and out in the open.</p>
<p>Dunno, that&#8217;s my take on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/07/24/facebook-yet-another-useless-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Useless? Depends on your definition.

I use sites like these to keep track of my friends. All my friends are on Facebook; they are also on Myspace. Facebook has multiple layers of privacy, so that all my friends can find my phone number if they lose it and I can find theirs. Myspace pages frequently take more time to load than my browser itself. Facebook pages might have a few thumbnailed photos.

And the rest of these sites? Nobody I know uses them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Useless? Depends on your definition.</p>
<p>I use sites like these to keep track of my friends. All my friends are on Facebook; they are also on Myspace. Facebook has multiple layers of privacy, so that all my friends can find my phone number if they lose it and I can find theirs. Myspace pages frequently take more time to load than my browser itself. Facebook pages might have a few thumbnailed photos.</p>
<p>And the rest of these sites? Nobody I know uses them.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael R. Head</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/07/24/facebook-yet-another-useless-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-771</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael R. Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The genius of facebook is that it took a look at a specific population (college students) and created an environment in which they can connect, contact and be aware of each other, schedule events, and easily share photos of each other. The challenge for them is how to extend the environment to a larger online population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The genius of facebook is that it took a look at a specific population (college students) and created an environment in which they can connect, contact and be aware of each other, schedule events, and easily share photos of each other. The challenge for them is how to extend the environment to a larger online population.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall Munroe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/07/24/facebook-yet-another-useless-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall Munroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 05:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was incredibly useful once it caught on during my college years.  It was &lt;b&gt;the&lt;/b&gt; way to keep track of people, look up contact information, quietly learn the major or whatnot of someone you had a crush on, plan and organize events, and keep friends updated on where you were and what you were doing.  The structure was designed to make it easy to have all your college-centered personal info up.  It was a great student directory.

However, I can&#039;t speak to it as a general social network; I certainly don&#039;t use it as much now that I&#039;m out of college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was incredibly useful once it caught on during my college years.  It was <b>the</b> way to keep track of people, look up contact information, quietly learn the major or whatnot of someone you had a crush on, plan and organize events, and keep friends updated on where you were and what you were doing.  The structure was designed to make it easy to have all your college-centered personal info up.  It was a great student directory.</p>
<p>However, I can&#8217;t speak to it as a general social network; I certainly don&#8217;t use it as much now that I&#8217;m out of college.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/07/24/facebook-yet-another-useless-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-761</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul Cooper 

the tagging system on facebook is really good. 
do others offer that too?</description>
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<p>the tagging system on facebook is really good.<br />
do others offer that too?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/07/24/facebook-yet-another-useless-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook, not as scummy as myspace or bebo!
not much of a claim to fame</description>
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not much of a claim to fame</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Cooper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/07/24/facebook-yet-another-useless-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-753</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I don&#039;t get it either, other than I&#039;ve caught up with a handful of friends from school and university through facebook - so it definitely has the critical mass of people.

One thing I&#039;ve noticed is that it provides a structure for interactions with other people whereas the tools I&#039;d rather use (email, blog, flickr, etc) are less structured; e.g. a friend who I&#039;ve been pestering to start a blog for years and who always says &#039;I don&#039;t have time&#039; or some other excuse signed up to Facebook a couple of weeks ago and now has a load of friends, daily postings, photos, etc, etc. And this person is a programmer / IT consultant so it&#039;s not like he&#039;s afraid of technology, but more like he&#039;s afraid of an empty textbox - facebook puts and easy &#039;not so serious&#039; structure on the interactions so people can dive right in.

I do find it weird how (intelligent) people quite happily live in the roach motel - a friend from school who caught up with me still insists on using the built in messaging and other tools rather than email, even though I sent him links to my email, blog, and flickr account. Totally baffling.

I guess the clever thing about facebook is that it is a jack of all trades and master of only one: having all your friends already there. Photo sharing is no way as good as flickr, smugmug, zoomr, etc but it&#039;s easy and instantly shared to your friends, the ad system isn&#039;t as good as Craigslist, but again simple and instantly shared, the messaging is web based mail of 8 years ago (with a single ajax effect) but it&#039;s simple to message your friends and seems free of spam so far.

I was never cool enough to get invited to Orkut when it first came out so I can&#039;t compare the two, but that&#039;s where Facebook differs (now they&#039;ve opened it up) - you don&#039;t need to be cool to be on it.

Michele: I agree, compared to LinkedIn Facebook seems very messy and lacking in polish (and MySpace is even worse), however my living room is messy and lacking polish compared to the houses in &#039;Home &amp; Garden&#039; and other design magazines - I think some of the messiness is what appeals to people as it&#039;s obviously personal and something used by humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I don&#8217;t get it either, other than I&#8217;ve caught up with a handful of friends from school and university through facebook &#8211; so it definitely has the critical mass of people.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;ve noticed is that it provides a structure for interactions with other people whereas the tools I&#8217;d rather use (email, blog, flickr, etc) are less structured; e.g. a friend who I&#8217;ve been pestering to start a blog for years and who always says &#8216;I don&#8217;t have time&#8217; or some other excuse signed up to Facebook a couple of weeks ago and now has a load of friends, daily postings, photos, etc, etc. And this person is a programmer / IT consultant so it&#8217;s not like he&#8217;s afraid of technology, but more like he&#8217;s afraid of an empty textbox &#8211; facebook puts and easy &#8216;not so serious&#8217; structure on the interactions so people can dive right in.</p>
<p>I do find it weird how (intelligent) people quite happily live in the roach motel &#8211; a friend from school who caught up with me still insists on using the built in messaging and other tools rather than email, even though I sent him links to my email, blog, and flickr account. Totally baffling.</p>
<p>I guess the clever thing about facebook is that it is a jack of all trades and master of only one: having all your friends already there. Photo sharing is no way as good as flickr, smugmug, zoomr, etc but it&#8217;s easy and instantly shared to your friends, the ad system isn&#8217;t as good as Craigslist, but again simple and instantly shared, the messaging is web based mail of 8 years ago (with a single ajax effect) but it&#8217;s simple to message your friends and seems free of spam so far.</p>
<p>I was never cool enough to get invited to Orkut when it first came out so I can&#8217;t compare the two, but that&#8217;s where Facebook differs (now they&#8217;ve opened it up) &#8211; you don&#8217;t need to be cool to be on it.</p>
<p>Michele: I agree, compared to LinkedIn Facebook seems very messy and lacking in polish (and MySpace is even worse), however my living room is messy and lacking polish compared to the houses in &#8216;Home &amp; Garden&#8217; and other design magazines &#8211; I think some of the messiness is what appeals to people as it&#8217;s obviously personal and something used by humans.</p>
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		<title>By: J5&#8217;s Blog &#187; Facebook - far from useless</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/07/24/facebook-yet-another-useless-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>J5&#8217;s Blog &#187; Facebook - far from useless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thought I would chime in on Dave&#8217;s post since I had the oposite experience with Facebook.  Ever since I started using it, it has been [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thought I would chime in on Dave&#8217;s post since I had the oposite experience with Facebook.  Ever since I started using it, it has been [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/07/24/facebook-yet-another-useless-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-750</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been trying it out over the last couple of days and would tend to agree with you. Compared to LinkedIn it seems very messy and lacking in polish

Michele</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying it out over the last couple of days and would tend to agree with you. Compared to LinkedIn it seems very messy and lacking in polish</p>
<p>Michele</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Conolly</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2007/07/24/facebook-yet-another-useless-social-network/comment-page-1/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Conolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi

i&#039;ll give my view on what facebook is useful for:
you know those people who you recognise but you never really speak to, if ever.
the people who you&#039;d probably like to get to know, but dont have any real reason to talk to.
well, on facebook, its less of a social taboo to step outside your immediate circle of friends
these are people that you generally wouldn&#039;t fire off an email to randomly to say hi.
its ok to go to your friends list of friends, find someone you recognise and send them a message

to summarise, facebook is useful not to keep track of your own friends, but moreso to get to know your friends friends and make them yours too.

matt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi</p>
<p>i&#8217;ll give my view on what facebook is useful for:<br />
you know those people who you recognise but you never really speak to, if ever.<br />
the people who you&#8217;d probably like to get to know, but dont have any real reason to talk to.<br />
well, on facebook, its less of a social taboo to step outside your immediate circle of friends<br />
these are people that you generally wouldn&#8217;t fire off an email to randomly to say hi.<br />
its ok to go to your friends list of friends, find someone you recognise and send them a message</p>
<p>to summarise, facebook is useful not to keep track of your own friends, but moreso to get to know your friends friends and make them yours too.</p>
<p>matt.</p>
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