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	<title>Comments on: France change OOXML vote on eve of deadline</title>
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	<description>Dave Neary's view of the world</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Neary</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2008/04/01/france-change-ooxml-vote-on-eve-of-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-1279</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Neary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cat_loic: I wish. Some supporting documentation: 

Le Monde Informatique: http://www.lemondeinformatique.fr/actualites/lire-openxml-devient-un-standard-iso-25739.html

Microsoft: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/apr08/04-01OpenXMLVotePR.mspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cat_loic: I wish. Some supporting documentation: </p>
<p>Le Monde Informatique: <a href="http://www.lemondeinformatique.fr/actualites/lire-openxml-devient-un-standard-iso-25739.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lemondeinformatique.fr/actualites/lire-openxml-devient-un-standard-iso-25739.html</a></p>
<p>Microsoft: <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/apr08/04-01OpenXMLVotePR.mspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/apr08/04-01OpenXMLVotePR.mspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: cat_loic</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2008/04/01/france-change-ooxml-vote-on-eve-of-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-1278</link>
		<dc:creator>cat_loic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it an april fool&#039;s joke or... ? ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it an april fool&#8217;s joke or&#8230; ? ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Neary</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2008/04/01/france-change-ooxml-vote-on-eve-of-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-1277</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Neary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the votes, two changes would be enough to deny the ISO standard label to OOXML at this stage - one country voting in favour, and another country abstaining or voting in favour, would have to change their votes to &quot;Disapprove&quot;. In practice, that means that the last-minute vote changes of my home country and my adoptive home (Ireland and France) have put Microsoft over the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the votes, two changes would be enough to deny the ISO standard label to OOXML at this stage &#8211; one country voting in favour, and another country abstaining or voting in favour, would have to change their votes to &#8220;Disapprove&#8221;. In practice, that means that the last-minute vote changes of my home country and my adoptive home (Ireland and France) have put Microsoft over the top.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Holloway</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2008/04/01/france-change-ooxml-vote-on-eve-of-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-1276</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, just to clarify. I was involved in the Standards NZ process which was very robust and fair. My criticism of the international process is not a criticism of those countries who did this correctly, but of those that didn&#039;t and a Fast Track for a standard so big and so flawed. It&#039;s not the NBs fault that they couldn&#039;t name everything wrong with this in the given time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, just to clarify. I was involved in the Standards NZ process which was very robust and fair. My criticism of the international process is not a criticism of those countries who did this correctly, but of those that didn&#8217;t and a Fast Track for a standard so big and so flawed. It&#8217;s not the NBs fault that they couldn&#8217;t name everything wrong with this in the given time.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Holloway</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2008/04/01/france-change-ooxml-vote-on-eve-of-deadline/comment-page-1/#comment-1275</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it looks like it&#039;s going to get through...

JTC1 Directives 3.1.1 say &quot; &#039;Abstention&#039; is an appropriate response (with or without comment) if an NB is not confident that their technical review is sufficient to cast an &#039;approve&#039; or &#039;disapprove&#039; vote.&quot; 

The French did one of the most thorough technical reviews of any National Body. Like most, I&#039;m taking abstain to mean &quot;we&#039;re honest enough to -almost- say it&#039;s awful, but this is a concession to Microsoft&quot;.

When this gets through the ISOs name will be mud. It&#039;s sad that they don&#039;t have the technical expertise and the confidence to stand up for good quality standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it looks like it&#8217;s going to get through&#8230;</p>
<p>JTC1 Directives 3.1.1 say &#8221; &#8216;Abstention&#8217; is an appropriate response (with or without comment) if an NB is not confident that their technical review is sufficient to cast an &#8216;approve&#8217; or &#8216;disapprove&#8217; vote.&#8221; </p>
<p>The French did one of the most thorough technical reviews of any National Body. Like most, I&#8217;m taking abstain to mean &#8220;we&#8217;re honest enough to -almost- say it&#8217;s awful, but this is a concession to Microsoft&#8221;.</p>
<p>When this gets through the ISOs name will be mud. It&#8217;s sad that they don&#8217;t have the technical expertise and the confidence to stand up for good quality standards.</p>
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