Comments on: Sun’s Web App UI Guidelines http://blogs.gnome.org/calum/2007/10/15/suns-web-app-ui-guidelines/ Usability an' that Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:14:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ken http://blogs.gnome.org/calum/2007/10/15/suns-web-app-ui-guidelines/comment-page-1/#comment-341 ken Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:58:33 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/calum/2007/10/15/suns-web-app-ui-guidelines/#comment-341 No, I have no problem with Swing's API or performance. But try opening the Java Web Start Application Manager and then telling me with a straight face that Sun has something to say about usability. Yes, I used to file detailed bug reports with Sun, but after being ignored for years, I gave up. Empirically, Sun's own bug-tracking system is also a place for "lamely bitching about [bugs] where nobody's going to take any notice of them". But if it wasn't those people again, then maybe it'll be useful. I'm not going to hold my breath, though, based on their recent history. "Three-Level Tabbed Panes"? Just, wow. No, I have no problem with Swing’s API or performance. But try opening the Java Web Start Application Manager and then telling me with a straight face that Sun has something to say about usability.

Yes, I used to file detailed bug reports with Sun, but after being ignored for years, I gave up. Empirically, Sun’s own bug-tracking system is also a place for “lamely bitching about [bugs] where nobody’s going to take any notice of them”.

But if it wasn’t those people again, then maybe it’ll be useful. I’m not going to hold my breath, though, based on their recent history. “Three-Level Tabbed Panes”? Just, wow.

]]> By: calum http://blogs.gnome.org/calum/2007/10/15/suns-web-app-ui-guidelines/comment-page-1/#comment-340 calum Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:39:16 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/calum/2007/10/15/suns-web-app-ui-guidelines/#comment-340 Can't say I recall any notable changes to the look and feel of Swing in the past couple of years, and specc'ing and usability testing those would be the only thing that Sun's Java UI folks would have worked on, If you have problems with Swing's API or performance, or there are bugs in Swing's implementation, then tragically your complaints are misdirected. I'm sure you've filed comprehensive reports about any such problems you may have encountered rather than just lamely bitching about them where nobody's going to take any notice of them, though, so that's fine. Oh, and no, it wasn't them anyway. Can’t say I recall any notable changes to the look and feel of Swing in the past couple of years, and specc’ing and usability testing those would be the only thing that Sun’s Java UI folks would have worked on, If you have problems with Swing’s API or performance, or there are bugs in Swing’s implementation, then tragically your complaints are misdirected. I’m sure you’ve filed comprehensive reports about any such problems you may have encountered rather than just lamely bitching about them where nobody’s going to take any notice of them, though, so that’s fine.

Oh, and no, it wasn’t them anyway.

]]> By: ken http://blogs.gnome.org/calum/2007/10/15/suns-web-app-ui-guidelines/comment-page-1/#comment-339 ken Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:21:47 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/calum/2007/10/15/suns-web-app-ui-guidelines/#comment-339 Are these the same Sun "user interface specialists" who worked on all the Java UI crap they gave us just a couple years ago? Gee, that sounds so tempting, Sun, but I think the hobos outside my window are presenting a more compelling business case. Maybe next millennium, mmm'kay? Are these the same Sun “user interface specialists” who worked on all the Java UI crap they gave us just a couple years ago?

Gee, that sounds so tempting, Sun, but I think the hobos outside my window are presenting a more compelling business case. Maybe next millennium, mmm’kay?

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