Comments on: gnome-screensaver vs. gnome-power-manager http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/ a lowercase manifesto Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:11:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: bisho http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-452 bisho Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:12:57 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-452 I would suggest an easier way (IMHO): ------------------ Consider computer inactive after [...] of no use Monitor: (*) Turn off screen ( ) Show screensaver for: [...] before turn it off Lock desktop: [x] Also lock the computer [...] after being inactive Computer: (*) Never power off ( ) Hibernate/Whutdown [...] after being inactive And all this settings should be configurable independiently on laptops, to be able to choose different setting when "On AC", "On batery" and "On presentation". I would suggest an easier way (IMHO):

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Consider computer inactive after […] of no use

Monitor:
(*) Turn off screen
( ) Show screensaver for: […] before turn it off

Lock desktop:
[x] Also lock the computer […] after being inactive

Computer:
(*) Never power off
( ) Hibernate/Whutdown […] after being inactive

And all this settings should be configurable independiently on laptops, to be able to choose different setting when “On AC”, “On batery” and “On presentation”.

]]> By: anonymous http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-440 anonymous Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:09:22 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-440 You should have a setting for only locking the screen after a few seconds (say 5) so it's less annoying if you're reading something and the screensaver kicks in. You should have a setting for only locking the screen after a few seconds (say 5) so it’s less annoying if you’re reading something and the screensaver kicks in.

]]> By: ssam http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-435 ssam Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:26:08 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-435 get rid of the screen saver. yes it was cool to have fish swim across your screen in the '90s. but now its cool to save power. get rid of the screen saver. yes it was cool to have fish swim across your screen in the ’90s. but now its cool to save power.

]]> By: Frederik Himpe http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-434 Frederik Himpe Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:24:13 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-434 I agree with comment #7: I do not understand at all why one has to configure when a computer becomes "inactive". What is that time interval used for, if you don't set it to lock or show the screensaver immediately when it becomes "inactive"? Please drop this. Also I think the possibility to set a different interval for locking and for showing the screensaver is fairly useless. Locking the machine without showing the screensaver, seems strange to me, and showing the screensaver, but only locking it five minutes later, seems strange too. Then just set your screensaver to show up 5 minutes later. I agree with comment #7: I do not understand at all why one has to configure when a computer becomes “inactive”. What is that time interval used for, if you don’t set it to lock or show the screensaver immediately when it becomes “inactive”? Please drop this.

Also I think the possibility to set a different interval for locking and for showing the screensaver is fairly useless. Locking the machine without showing the screensaver, seems strange to me, and showing the screensaver, but only locking it five minutes later, seems strange too. Then just set your screensaver to show up 5 minutes later.

]]> By: Xav http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-429 Xav Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:08:01 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-429 Too complex. Too much text to read. How about illustrating what happens with a timeline ? 0-----1-----2-----3..... t0: computer is inactive after t1: screensaver starts after t2: screen is locked after t3: screen is off With various choices for each tx. IMHO, this is much much more clear. Too complex. Too much text to read.
How about illustrating what happens with a timeline ?

0—–1—–2—–3…..

t0: computer is inactive
after t1: screensaver starts
after t2: screen is locked
after t3: screen is off

With various choices for each tx.

IMHO, this is much much more clear.

]]> By: Erik Snoeijs http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-419 Erik Snoeijs Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:14:54 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-419 Interesting, and i like it. And while thinking about it, i would even say that it might be worthwile to "drop" the current screensaver selection program and merge it with the theme selection. It might be a Ubuntu only addition to gnome, but i noticed that font selection and window behaviour already got moved to a single application. Which i like very much because i always found that System>Preferences has too many items. Seeing as the actual choice of what screensaver you want to run is decoration choice, moving it to such a themes application seems logical. Interesting, and i like it. And while thinking about it, i would even say that it might be worthwile to “drop” the current screensaver selection program and merge it with the theme selection.

It might be a Ubuntu only addition to gnome, but i noticed that font selection and window behaviour already got moved to a single application. Which i like very much because i always found that System>Preferences has too many items.
Seeing as the actual choice of what screensaver you want to run is decoration choice, moving it to such a themes application seems logical.

]]> By: Perry Lorier http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-418 Perry Lorier Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:39:40 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-418 Please don't immediately power the screen off after an incorrect unlock attempt, some monitors after being powered off can take a very long time to power back on again. Showing the screensaver for a while gives you an opportunity to initiate another attempt at unlocking the screen again. My thought for a UI for this was a slider where you could drag "screen saver" "blank" "lock" and "poweroff monitor" "power off system" "hibernate" etc icons onto (and off again back into some toolbox), letting the user specify when they wanted various things to happen. I've always set the screensaver to come on for a minute before powering off and locking the screen, which gives me an indication that the screen is about to lock and gives me time to cause some activity to avoid it without having to reenter my password and/or wait for the monitors to power up again (which is important when reading complicated things off the screen) Please don’t immediately power the screen off after an incorrect unlock attempt, some monitors after being powered off can take a very long time to power back on again. Showing the screensaver for a while gives you an opportunity to initiate another attempt at unlocking the screen again.

My thought for a UI for this was a slider where you could drag “screen saver” “blank” “lock” and “poweroff monitor” “power off system” “hibernate” etc icons onto (and off again back into some toolbox), letting the user specify when they wanted various things to happen.

I’ve always set the screensaver to come on for a minute before powering off and locking the screen, which gives me an indication that the screen is about to lock and gives me time to cause some activity to avoid it without having to reenter my password and/or wait for the monitors to power up again (which is important when reading complicated things off the screen)

]]> By: Matthias Clasen http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-417 Matthias Clasen Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:25:07 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-417 Oddly worded. "Computer is inactive after [2min]" 2 minutes of what, inactivity ? Also, why do I have to tell my computer when it is i inactive ? it can pretty well figure that out on its own. Oddly worded.

“Computer is inactive after [2min]”
2 minutes of what, inactivity ?

Also, why do I have to tell my computer when it is i inactive ? it can pretty well figure that out on its own.

]]> By: Lapo http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-416 Lapo Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:15:06 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-416 Nice idea, screen locking need some thinkering tho. I'd use a dropdown for times with an other option which pop up a dialog probably. Nice idea, screen locking need some thinkering tho. I’d use a dropdown for times with an other option which pop up a dialog probably.

]]> By: davidz http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-415 davidz Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:02:10 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2007/12/30/gnome-screensaver-vs-gnome-power-manager/#comment-415 Definitely a +1 from me; sounds like a great idea. Definitely a +1 from me; sounds like a great idea.

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