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	<title>Comments on: icanhasedit?</title>
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	<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2008/08/11/icanhasedit/</link>
	<description>a lowercase manifesto</description>
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		<title>By: …for the adult in you &#187; The one where we argue about themes a lot</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2008/08/11/icanhasedit/comment-page-1/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>…for the adult in you &#187; The one where we argue about themes a lot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: See desrt&#8217;s mockup inspired in part by this entry.   This entry was written by Thomas Thurman, posted on August 10, 2008 at 12:44 am, filed under Policy, Themes. Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL.    &#171; Reminding us Branch for stable 2.24 &#187; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: See desrt&#8217;s mockup inspired in part by this entry.   This entry was written by Thomas Thurman, posted on August 10, 2008 at 12:44 am, filed under Policy, Themes. Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL.    &laquo; Reminding us Branch for stable 2.24 &raquo; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rui</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2008/08/11/icanhasedit/comment-page-1/#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator>Rui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W00t!? One my greatest itches on free desktops being itched!

Way to go people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W00t!? One my greatest itches on free desktops being itched!</p>
<p>Way to go people!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian H</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2008/08/11/icanhasedit/comment-page-1/#comment-507</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristian H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woo, my pet peeve: make gtk+ draw decorations already!  I did a C proto-type a couple of years ago, it&#039;s over here:

  http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/alta.git/

and I wrote down a list of pros and cons of the approach here:

  http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/client-side-decorations.txt

As we start to do more animations and advanced theming, splitting the visual appearance of a window between two independent apps doesn&#039;t work.  Yes, we *could* defined wm protocols and window properties out the wazoo to cover entry fields in the title bar, side panes sliding out from the side of the window, but the fast path to these features is to move the decorations to gtk+.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woo, my pet peeve: make gtk+ draw decorations already!  I did a C proto-type a couple of years ago, it&#8217;s over here:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/alta.git/" rel="nofollow">http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/alta.git/</a></p>
<p>and I wrote down a list of pros and cons of the approach here:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/client-side-decorations.txt" rel="nofollow">http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/client-side-decorations.txt</a></p>
<p>As we start to do more animations and advanced theming, splitting the visual appearance of a window between two independent apps doesn&#8217;t work.  Yes, we *could* defined wm protocols and window properties out the wazoo to cover entry fields in the title bar, side panes sliding out from the side of the window, but the fast path to these features is to move the decorations to gtk+.</p>
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		<title>By: desrt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2008/08/11/icanhasedit/comment-page-1/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>desrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stefan: enable Composite already :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stefan: enable Composite already :p</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Thurman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2008/08/11/icanhasedit/comment-page-1/#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Thurman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me be the first to say: Ooooh, shiny.

Anonymous:  I think you&#039;ve come in halfway through a conversation here.  The discussion is about whether GTK should be responsible for decorating window frames, or whether Metacity should.  If GTK was in charge of doing so, there&#039;s no reason it shouldn&#039;t support everything Metacity currently supports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me be the first to say: Ooooh, shiny.</p>
<p>Anonymous:  I think you&#8217;ve come in halfway through a conversation here.  The discussion is about whether GTK should be responsible for decorating window frames, or whether Metacity should.  If GTK was in charge of doing so, there&#8217;s no reason it shouldn&#8217;t support everything Metacity currently supports.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2008/08/11/icanhasedit/comment-page-1/#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get some strange redraw issues when resizing, other than that, v.cool POC :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get some strange redraw issues when resizing, other than that, v.cool POC :)</p>
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		<title>By: John (J5) Palmieri</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2008/08/11/icanhasedit/comment-page-1/#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>John (J5) Palmieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but now it needs to translate every file it loads into lol speak</description>
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		<title>By: Jakub Steiner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2008/08/11/icanhasedit/comment-page-1/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakub Steiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it! I suggest adding some padding to the text area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it! I suggest adding some padding to the text area.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Kost</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2008/08/11/icanhasedit/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Kost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KTHXBYE :/

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File &quot;icanhasedit.py&quot;, line 351, in 
    d = Document (sys.argv[1])
  File &quot;icanhasedit.py&quot;, line 325, in __init__
    FrameWindow.__init__ (self)
  File &quot;icanhasedit.py&quot;, line 65, in __init__
    self.set_colormap (self.get_screen ().get_rgba_colormap ())
TypeError: GtkWidget.set_colormap() argument 1 must be gtk.gdk.Colormap, not None</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KTHXBYE :/</p>
<p>Traceback (most recent call last):<br />
  File &#8220;icanhasedit.py&#8221;, line 351, in<br />
    d = Document (sys.argv[1])<br />
  File &#8220;icanhasedit.py&#8221;, line 325, in __init__<br />
    FrameWindow.__init__ (self)<br />
  File &#8220;icanhasedit.py&#8221;, line 65, in __init__<br />
    self.set_colormap (self.get_screen ().get_rgba_colormap ())<br />
TypeError: GtkWidget.set_colormap() argument 1 must be gtk.gdk.Colormap, not None</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2008/08/11/icanhasedit/comment-page-1/#comment-500</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does that mean the idea of shading windows is now gone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does that mean the idea of shading windows is now gone?</p>
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