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	<title>Comments on: All the Old Showstoppers</title>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 for 80 columns.  Because it&#039;s standard, and it&#039;s useful in many situations.  Have you heard of printing code, for example?  And myself, since I moved from xfwm4 to wmii, I haven&#039;t been able to go back from using a two-column view with a terminal (or two stacked terminals) in the left column and a gvim session in the right column.  80 chars max indeed, I say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 for 80 columns.  Because it&#8217;s standard, and it&#8217;s useful in many situations.  Have you heard of printing code, for example?  And myself, since I moved from xfwm4 to wmii, I haven&#8217;t been able to go back from using a two-column view with a terminal (or two stacked terminals) in the left column and a gvim session in the right column.  80 chars max indeed, I say!</p>
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		<title>By: ebassi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>ebassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Uzytkownik: here&#039;s a nickel kid, go buy yourself a better terminal emulator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/#comment-533">Uzytkownik</a>: here&#8217;s a nickel kid, go buy yourself a better terminal emulator.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Lattimer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Lattimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>puppies and belt sander! GENIUS! ABSOLUTE GENIUS!

/me creased over in a laughing fit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>puppies and belt sander! GENIUS! ABSOLUTE GENIUS!</p>
<p>/me creased over in a laughing fit!</p>
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		<title>By: Uzytkownik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator>Uzytkownik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in 2008 many people uses text-based editors like vim or emacs (well - at least me) opened in 80x24 terminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in 2008 many people uses text-based editors like vim or emacs (well &#8211; at least me) opened in 80&#215;24 terminals.</p>
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		<title>By: ebassi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-532</link>
		<dc:creator>ebassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@neil: I respect the fact that some prefer 80 columns &#8212; even though I&#039;m not sold on both the window size (use a tiling window manager) or patches in email (fix your email client :-P).

what I personally find most irritating are the contorsionisms people use to get around the fact that libraries are not using function names like creat() or foo() like it was in 1972. you want to break down the lines? fine. but use a variable or two &#8212; or, god forbid, a wrapper inline function. don&#039;t do weird shit like breaking down at parentesis or commas until you cannot distinguish between parameters, functions, macros or ternary operators anymore.

but I really think it&#039;s time to bite the bullet, if you&#039;re writing C code, and code for non ANSI terminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@neil: I respect the fact that some prefer 80 columns &mdash; even though I&#8217;m not sold on both the window size (use a tiling window manager) or patches in email (fix your email client <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-raspberry.png' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
<p>what I personally find most irritating are the contorsionisms people use to get around the fact that libraries are not using function names like creat() or foo() like it was in 1972. you want to break down the lines? fine. but use a variable or two &mdash; or, god forbid, a wrapper inline function. don&#8217;t do weird shit like breaking down at parentesis or commas until you cannot distinguish between parameters, functions, macros or ternary operators anymore.</p>
<p>but I really think it&#8217;s time to bite the bullet, if you&#8217;re writing C code, and code for non ANSI terminals.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Roberts</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yay +1 for that. I&#039;ve been doing in that way where I can anyway because the other way upsets Emacs&#039; auto-indent

-1 for saying that 100+ columns are ok though. If I have a wider a screen then I want two side-by-side 80 column windows. And long lines mess up patches in emails</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay +1 for that. I&#8217;ve been doing in that way where I can anyway because the other way upsets Emacs&#8217; auto-indent</p>
<p>-1 for saying that 100+ columns are ok though. If I have a wider a screen then I want two side-by-side 80 column windows. And long lines mess up patches in emails</p>
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		<title>By: wingo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-530</link>
		<dc:creator>wingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yay decemberists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay decemberists!</p>
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		<title>By: njpatel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator>njpatel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I&#039;m responsible for quite a few puppies meeting their maker...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I&#8217;m responsible for quite a few puppies meeting their maker&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ebassi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>ebassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mallum: I&#039;ll bite &#8212; it depends on what you&#039;re writing. the ugly fact is that poor little else is available for writing libraries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/#comment-527">mallum</a>: I&#8217;ll bite &mdash; it depends on what you&#8217;re writing. the ugly fact is that poor little else is available for writing libraries.</p>
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		<title>By: mallum</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/2008/11/04/all-the-old-showstoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>mallum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the fact we are coding in C means we are indeed stuck in 1983 though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the fact we are coding in C means we are indeed stuck in 1983 though.</p>
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