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	<title>Comments on: Firefox EULA</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/05/23/firefox-eula/comment-page-1/#comment-463</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG!!! Firefox3.0 is Soooooooooooooo slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG!!! Firefox3.0 is Soooooooooooooo slow.</p>
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		<title>By: exa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/05/23/firefox-eula/comment-page-1/#comment-458</link>
		<dc:creator>exa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I have been using Firefox from 0.1

OK, I know that was posted by &quot;troll&quot; and should probably just be ignored... but there was no Firefox 0.1... the browser was called Phoenix until version 0.5 or so when it got renamed Firebird, then a couple versions later got renamed again to Firefox.

Anyways, I don&#039;t see this EULA issue as anything but an attempt to protect the Mozilla Corporation and the Mozilla Project. There is nothing in the current EULA that places any restrictions on use of the software, and you aren&#039;t agreeing to give up your personal information or your first born child. Its much shorter than most EULAs (at 2 pages max when printed, 1 page if small type is used). It might be a small annoyance, but its one most users will never remember, and you only see it once. The delay caused by the notice costs users at most a few minutes (if they read it, less than 2 seconds if not), which is much less than the time wasted complaining about it.

FOSS doesn&#039;t mean freedom from EULAs... it means freedom of software and usage. There are licenses on all FOSS source code governing how it is distributed with the intent of protecting the project, and in kind it makes sense to include licenses on binaries to disclaim liability to also protect the project (or in this case the distributing and sponsoring organization).

Mozilla is doing the smart thing, and in the current legal atmosphere, the right thing. At the same time they are making huge strides in advancing FOSS. I applaud them for their efforts, EULAs and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I have been using Firefox from 0.1</p>
<p>OK, I know that was posted by &#8220;troll&#8221; and should probably just be ignored&#8230; but there was no Firefox 0.1&#8230; the browser was called Phoenix until version 0.5 or so when it got renamed Firebird, then a couple versions later got renamed again to Firefox.</p>
<p>Anyways, I don&#8217;t see this EULA issue as anything but an attempt to protect the Mozilla Corporation and the Mozilla Project. There is nothing in the current EULA that places any restrictions on use of the software, and you aren&#8217;t agreeing to give up your personal information or your first born child. Its much shorter than most EULAs (at 2 pages max when printed, 1 page if small type is used). It might be a small annoyance, but its one most users will never remember, and you only see it once. The delay caused by the notice costs users at most a few minutes (if they read it, less than 2 seconds if not), which is much less than the time wasted complaining about it.</p>
<p>FOSS doesn&#8217;t mean freedom from EULAs&#8230; it means freedom of software and usage. There are licenses on all FOSS source code governing how it is distributed with the intent of protecting the project, and in kind it makes sense to include licenses on binaries to disclaim liability to also protect the project (or in this case the distributing and sponsoring organization).</p>
<p>Mozilla is doing the smart thing, and in the current legal atmosphere, the right thing. At the same time they are making huge strides in advancing FOSS. I applaud them for their efforts, EULAs and all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/05/23/firefox-eula/comment-page-1/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, they came for the Debianites, and nobody spoke up. Well, they did, they mocked Debian for being license zealots.

Then, they came for the anti-EULA crowd...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, they came for the Debianites, and nobody spoke up. Well, they did, they mocked Debian for being license zealots.</p>
<p>Then, they came for the anti-EULA crowd&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: taupist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/05/23/firefox-eula/comment-page-1/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>taupist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last time I installed Firefox on Windows (first time in a long time), I couldn&#039;t understand what all the pop-ups were about. I still haven&#039;t figured out how to make them go away. I suppose they&#039;ll just keep coming until I hook that machine up to the internet and register. It&#039;s sad, it&#039;s disgusting . . . I really don&#039;t have words for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I installed Firefox on Windows (first time in a long time), I couldn&#8217;t understand what all the pop-ups were about. I still haven&#8217;t figured out how to make them go away. I suppose they&#8217;ll just keep coming until I hook that machine up to the internet and register. It&#8217;s sad, it&#8217;s disgusting . . . I really don&#8217;t have words for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/05/23/firefox-eula/comment-page-1/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 10:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich man... u have issues. A lot of em too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich man&#8230; u have issues. A lot of em too.</p>
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		<title>By: reinouts</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/05/23/firefox-eula/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>reinouts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 22:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@benoit: just what I was about to comment! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@benoit: just what I was about to comment! <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/05/23/firefox-eula/comment-page-1/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 06:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>epiphany uses gecko and will change to webkit... so then, my friend, in the end you use the same okay ? once again, change to something more &quot;open&quot;, like ie, opera or then stop complaining...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>epiphany uses gecko and will change to webkit&#8230; so then, my friend, in the end you use the same okay ? once again, change to something more &#8220;open&#8221;, like ie, opera or then stop complaining&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel A. Falvo II</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/05/23/firefox-eula/comment-page-1/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel A. Falvo II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 03:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I haven&#039;t seen so far is something which is so obvious, especially for an organization which has been through the legal system a few times:

The reason they put it in your face is simple: their lawyers said so.

If you dislike this, then I would like you to contact their lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I haven&#8217;t seen so far is something which is so obvious, especially for an organization which has been through the legal system a few times:</p>
<p>The reason they put it in your face is simple: their lawyers said so.</p>
<p>If you dislike this, then I would like you to contact their lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: markus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/05/23/firefox-eula/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a few people here do not  understand is that THIS IS ANNOYING for a user.

It may be nothing of importance, BUT IT IS STILL ANNOYING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a few people here do not  understand is that THIS IS ANNOYING for a user.</p>
<p>It may be nothing of importance, BUT IT IS STILL ANNOYING.</p>
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		<title>By: hughsie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/05/23/firefox-eula/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>hughsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 08:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@thebluesgnr

I do use Fedora.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@thebluesgnr</p>
<p>I do use Fedora.</p>
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