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	<title>Comments on: Running a program after install</title>
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		<title>By: Tworzenie Stron www</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/06/04/running-a-program-after-install/comment-page-1/#comment-453</link>
		<dc:creator>Tworzenie Stron www</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Blog!</description>
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		<title>By: hughsie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/06/04/running-a-program-after-install/comment-page-1/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>hughsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rizz:

Agreed, I&#039;ve added the name first, thanks.</description>
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<p>Agreed, I&#8217;ve added the name first, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: rizz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/06/04/running-a-program-after-install/comment-page-1/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>rizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 07:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good initiative!

If I may add some comments with respect to usability: usability studies have shown that people only &#039;scan&#039; text briefly from the start of a sentence. If you start each line with &#039;Play&#039;, this requires a user to read more of the sentence. So, it is advisable to start each line with a keyword that clearly defines what that action does, e.g. 

Blackjack - the classic casino card game
Freecell - challenging decks of cards 
Chess - the unsurpassed two-player board game
etc.

A few rules of thumb:
 * don&#039;t make lines too long and put the important stuff at the beginning of the sentence
 * avoid &#039;wordiness&#039; (i.e. remove words that do not add anything to sentence)

Moreover, mentioning the games by their name makes it easier for people to find them back at a later stage (if those names also appear in the menus).

A few short articles by Jakob Nielsen on this matter:
how users scan a page: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/reading_pattern.html

aligning text in menus: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/navigation-menu-alignment.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good initiative!</p>
<p>If I may add some comments with respect to usability: usability studies have shown that people only &#8217;scan&#8217; text briefly from the start of a sentence. If you start each line with &#8216;Play&#8217;, this requires a user to read more of the sentence. So, it is advisable to start each line with a keyword that clearly defines what that action does, e.g. </p>
<p>Blackjack &#8211; the classic casino card game<br />
Freecell &#8211; challenging decks of cards<br />
Chess &#8211; the unsurpassed two-player board game<br />
etc.</p>
<p>A few rules of thumb:<br />
 * don&#8217;t make lines too long and put the important stuff at the beginning of the sentence<br />
 * avoid &#8216;wordiness&#8217; (i.e. remove words that do not add anything to sentence)</p>
<p>Moreover, mentioning the games by their name makes it easier for people to find them back at a later stage (if those names also appear in the menus).</p>
<p>A few short articles by Jakob Nielsen on this matter:<br />
how users scan a page: <a href="http://www.useit.com/alertbox/reading_pattern.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.useit.com/alertbox/reading_pattern.html</a></p>
<p>aligning text in menus: <a href="http://www.useit.com/alertbox/navigation-menu-alignment.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.useit.com/alertbox/navigation-menu-alignment.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/06/04/running-a-program-after-install/comment-page-1/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I forgot, make sure to add a

[ ] Don&#039;t show this again

checkbox to dialogs like this, some users are offended by the system treating them like beginners.

Drag &amp; drop to the menu bar or applet to show the path might have the advantages of being slightly easier to write (you don&#039;t have to figure out what kind of launching system the user is using) and not requiring a button, but it is undiscoverable and counterintuitive; the drag and drop doesn&#039;t have the effect of moving an object or applying it to anything. I would in fact expect dragging an operation like those in the list to cause a shortcut to that operation to be created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I forgot, make sure to add a</p>
<p>[ ] Don&#8217;t show this again</p>
<p>checkbox to dialogs like this, some users are offended by the system treating them like beginners.</p>
<p>Drag &amp; drop to the menu bar or applet to show the path might have the advantages of being slightly easier to write (you don&#8217;t have to figure out what kind of launching system the user is using) and not requiring a button, but it is undiscoverable and counterintuitive; the drag and drop doesn&#8217;t have the effect of moving an object or applying it to anything. I would in fact expect dragging an operation like those in the list to cause a shortcut to that operation to be created.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/06/04/running-a-program-after-install/comment-page-1/#comment-420</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, have clamored for this.  There have been plenty of times when I installed stuff, and had trouble finding it in the menu system.  I agree that showing where it is in the menus when you click on it (or at least showing the menu path in the list view) would help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, have clamored for this.  There have been plenty of times when I installed stuff, and had trouble finding it in the menu system.  I agree that showing where it is in the menus when you click on it (or at least showing the menu path in the list view) would help.</p>
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		<title>By: schmichael</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/06/04/running-a-program-after-install/comment-page-1/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>schmichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 to what Michael said above (Name field, no package names, tiles instead of list).

Also, is &quot;Run&quot; really the best verb?  Why not &quot;Start&quot; or &quot;Open&quot;?  I suppose &quot;Run&quot; is used some other places in Gnome, but it seems antiquated.

Better yet, drop that button altogether and make each App clickable (similar to Domas&#039;s suggestion).

+1 to Ian McKellar&#039;s drag &amp; drop feature as well.

Did I just end up suggesting a Nautilus window with links to the apps you just installed?  Oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 to what Michael said above (Name field, no package names, tiles instead of list).</p>
<p>Also, is &#8220;Run&#8221; really the best verb?  Why not &#8220;Start&#8221; or &#8220;Open&#8221;?  I suppose &#8220;Run&#8221; is used some other places in Gnome, but it seems antiquated.</p>
<p>Better yet, drop that button altogether and make each App clickable (similar to Domas&#8217;s suggestion).</p>
<p>+1 to Ian McKellar&#8217;s drag &amp; drop feature as well.</p>
<p>Did I just end up suggesting a Nautilus window with links to the apps you just installed?  Oops.</p>
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		<title>By: Domas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/06/04/running-a-program-after-install/comment-page-1/#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Domas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea is quite good. However, I would move the button &quot;Run&quot; to each row where programs&#039; descriptions reside. I would also add &quot;Remove&quot; button there in case one didn&#039;t like the program that just ran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea is quite good. However, I would move the button &#8220;Run&#8221; to each row where programs&#8217; descriptions reside. I would also add &#8220;Remove&#8221; button there in case one didn&#8217;t like the program that just ran.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian McKellar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/06/04/running-a-program-after-install/comment-page-1/#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian McKellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I implemented this for the Eazel software installer (which sadly died with the company) I made it so you could drag the applications to your panel / desktop, and it listed what menu path the program is available so that users can find the software they just installed again next time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I implemented this for the Eazel software installer (which sadly died with the company) I made it so you could drag the applications to your panel / desktop, and it listed what menu path the program is available so that users can find the software they just installed again next time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/06/04/running-a-program-after-install/comment-page-1/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to rain on any parades, but why? I can&#039;t imagine that ther&#039;s been any major clamour for that feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to rain on any parades, but why? I can&#8217;t imagine that ther&#8217;s been any major clamour for that feature.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/06/04/running-a-program-after-install/comment-page-1/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like a fun idea, but unless you show the user where to find the program the next time, it&#039;s not very useful. I think it should have a button, that when pressed shows the menu with a highlight on the item.

Another idea of course is to split this:

- What&#039;s new
- What&#039;s installed
- What&#039;s available

Although those could contain many items, so they would have to be categorized and searchable.

Also very neat would be to include interactive or video tutorials in the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a fun idea, but unless you show the user where to find the program the next time, it&#8217;s not very useful. I think it should have a button, that when pressed shows the menu with a highlight on the item.</p>
<p>Another idea of course is to split this:</p>
<p>- What&#8217;s new<br />
- What&#8217;s installed<br />
- What&#8217;s available</p>
<p>Although those could contain many items, so they would have to be categorized and searchable.</p>
<p>Also very neat would be to include interactive or video tutorials in the list.</p>
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