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	<title>Comments on: gnome-power-manager and DeviceKit-power</title>
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		<title>By: mpt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/09/gnome-power-manager-and-devicekit-power/comment-page-1/#comment-839</link>
		<dc:creator>mpt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, that looks much better! With that I don’t think you need either of the checkboxes any more.

To be honest I’m still not sure what that graph is showing, though. Would a perfectly performing battery show the line passing through (1 hour, 1 hour), instead of (32 minutes, 1 hour) as it does in that screenshot? And if it says “Data length: 2 hours”, which of the axes are supposed to show 2 hours, and why don’t either of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, that looks much better! With that I don’t think you need either of the checkboxes any more.</p>
<p>To be honest I’m still not sure what that graph is showing, though. Would a perfectly performing battery show the line passing through (1 hour, 1 hour), instead of (32 minutes, 1 hour) as it does in that screenshot? And if it says “Data length: 2 hours”, which of the axes are supposed to show 2 hours, and why don’t either of them?</p>
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		<title>By: hughsie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/09/gnome-power-manager-and-devicekit-power/comment-page-1/#comment-830</link>
		<dc:creator>hughsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mpt:

Something like this: http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/temp/gpm-stats-monitor-smooth.png ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mpt:</p>
<p>Something like this: <a href="http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/temp/gpm-stats-monitor-smooth.png" rel="nofollow">http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/temp/gpm-stats-monitor-smooth.png</a> ?</p>
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		<title>By: mpt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/09/gnome-power-manager-and-devicekit-power/comment-page-1/#comment-818</link>
		<dc:creator>mpt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Søren. I don&#039;t know what a data provider is, but can gnome-power-manager tell the difference between one that updates itself and one that doesn&#039;t? If so, for those that don&#039;t update themselves, can gnome-power-manager be smart enough to do the refresh every minute (or five minutes, or whatever) without human intervention? Then you wouldn&#039;t need the &quot;Refresh&quot; button.

I agree also with jry. Instead of smoothing the points, how about showing both the raw points and a smooth curve?

I&#039;m sure I&#039;d find these graphs very interesting if I understood the titles and axis labels. (I&#039;ve never understood why &quot;Power history&quot; doesn&#039;t show real clock times, for example, or what a &quot;Charge time profile&quot; is.) However, I can tell you that the menu for choosing a graph really should go above the graph, not below it, because the graph is dependent on the menu rather than the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Søren. I don&#8217;t know what a data provider is, but can gnome-power-manager tell the difference between one that updates itself and one that doesn&#8217;t? If so, for those that don&#8217;t update themselves, can gnome-power-manager be smart enough to do the refresh every minute (or five minutes, or whatever) without human intervention? Then you wouldn&#8217;t need the &#8220;Refresh&#8221; button.</p>
<p>I agree also with jry. Instead of smoothing the points, how about showing both the raw points and a smooth curve?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d find these graphs very interesting if I understood the titles and axis labels. (I&#8217;ve never understood why &#8220;Power history&#8221; doesn&#8217;t show real clock times, for example, or what a &#8220;Charge time profile&#8221; is.) However, I can tell you that the menu for choosing a graph really should go above the graph, not below it, because the graph is dependent on the menu rather than the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: hughsie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/09/gnome-power-manager-and-devicekit-power/comment-page-1/#comment-798</link>
		<dc:creator>hughsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screenshots updated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screenshots updated.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/09/gnome-power-manager-and-devicekit-power/comment-page-1/#comment-797</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Needs more units</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Needs more units</p>
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		<title>By: bash</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/09/gnome-power-manager-and-devicekit-power/comment-page-1/#comment-796</link>
		<dc:creator>bash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work so far. I also have some suggestions for the GUI. As other have said the icons really do make no sense at the moment. But I suspect that just due to it being a test version. I think though the icons should stay. As for the charts, gnome-system-monitor got some really nice looking cairo graphs a couple of versions back. Is there a chance that those could be used here as well? Or is that not possible? Also what exactly is the difference between &quot;Statistics&quot; and &quot;History&quot;? They both seem the chart past consumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work so far. I also have some suggestions for the GUI. As other have said the icons really do make no sense at the moment. But I suspect that just due to it being a test version. I think though the icons should stay. As for the charts, gnome-system-monitor got some really nice looking cairo graphs a couple of versions back. Is there a chance that those could be used here as well? Or is that not possible? Also what exactly is the difference between &#8220;Statistics&#8221; and &#8220;History&#8221;? They both seem the chart past consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Holloway</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/09/gnome-power-manager-and-devicekit-power/comment-page-1/#comment-795</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I just popped in to say that two of those icons don&#039;t make much sense. AC adaptor should be a plug, monitor should be a monitor (without the system box)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I just popped in to say that two of those icons don&#8217;t make much sense. AC adaptor should be a plug, monitor should be a monitor (without the system box)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Schierbeck</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/09/gnome-power-manager-and-devicekit-power/comment-page-1/#comment-794</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Schierbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps a more suitable icon for &quot;AC adapter&quot;? Also, the &quot;Monitor&quot; icon doesn&#039;t really make any sense...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a more suitable icon for &#8220;AC adapter&#8221;? Also, the &#8220;Monitor&#8221; icon doesn&#8217;t really make any sense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Nilsson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/09/gnome-power-manager-and-devicekit-power/comment-page-1/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Nilsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something I would like to see in GNOME is less clutter and less inappropriate use of icons where they are really not needed.
So perhaps removal of the icons in the sidebar could be cool (this would also give you 32 more pixels to show the graphs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I would like to see in GNOME is less clutter and less inappropriate use of icons where they are really not needed.<br />
So perhaps removal of the icons in the sidebar could be cool (this would also give you 32 more pixels to show the graphs).</p>
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		<title>By: hughsie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/09/gnome-power-manager-and-devicekit-power/comment-page-1/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>hughsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jry:

Most people don&#039;t care about the power spikes and olny care about the average value. I think it&#039;&#039;s useful to be able to get the &quot;real&quot; values as sometimes this shows other trends, for instance when a battery discharges every 9 percent in 10, when there are only 90 valid battery states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jry:</p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t care about the power spikes and olny care about the average value. I think it&#8221;s useful to be able to get the &#8220;real&#8221; values as sometimes this shows other trends, for instance when a battery discharges every 9 percent in 10, when there are only 90 valid battery states.</p>
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