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	<title>Comments on: pkcon list-install foo.package-list</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/15/pkcon-list-install-foopackage-list/comment-page-1/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Mandriva, and just did something very similar (nuked my old install, reinstalling certain packages until I have what I need again). I manually made an alpha-sorted list of my packages without version numbers before the wipe, and have been comparing that to my new install, refreshing the new list as I install new packages.

A couple of thoughts:

1) Something that I encountered on my last upgrade was new: I switched from i586 to x86_64. This meant that (at least with Mandriva&#039;s naming convention), I now have a bunch of packages with &quot;lib64&quot; in the middle of their names, which makes it hard to do a 1-to-1 comparison. Likewise, I imagine, if I ever went back to i586.

2) What about dependencies which change? My last update jumped several versions of the distro, and so I had a lot of packages that didn&#039;t need to be reinstalled, as well as some new ones that needed to be installed but weren&#039;t by choice.

Both these cases generate a lot of &quot;background noise&quot; in which my actual choices are lost. I still haven&#039;t gotten everything reinstalled because the &quot;noise&quot; made me decide to only install what I need as I need it. So after the initial (very big) push, there are a bunch of other packages which I haven&#039;t done anything about because I don&#039;t always remember what I had had originally installed by choice or by dependency, and don&#039;t want to take the time to comb through the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Mandriva, and just did something very similar (nuked my old install, reinstalling certain packages until I have what I need again). I manually made an alpha-sorted list of my packages without version numbers before the wipe, and have been comparing that to my new install, refreshing the new list as I install new packages.</p>
<p>A couple of thoughts:</p>
<p>1) Something that I encountered on my last upgrade was new: I switched from i586 to x86_64. This meant that (at least with Mandriva&#8217;s naming convention), I now have a bunch of packages with &#8220;lib64&#8243; in the middle of their names, which makes it hard to do a 1-to-1 comparison. Likewise, I imagine, if I ever went back to i586.</p>
<p>2) What about dependencies which change? My last update jumped several versions of the distro, and so I had a lot of packages that didn&#8217;t need to be reinstalled, as well as some new ones that needed to be installed but weren&#8217;t by choice.</p>
<p>Both these cases generate a lot of &#8220;background noise&#8221; in which my actual choices are lost. I still haven&#8217;t gotten everything reinstalled because the &#8220;noise&#8221; made me decide to only install what I need as I need it. So after the initial (very big) push, there are a bunch of other packages which I haven&#8217;t done anything about because I don&#8217;t always remember what I had had originally installed by choice or by dependency, and don&#8217;t want to take the time to comb through the list.</p>
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		<title>By: backup</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/15/pkcon-list-install-foopackage-list/comment-page-1/#comment-803</link>
		<dc:creator>backup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neat indeed. It would be incredibly useful to have a way to select only manually installed packages like Mats suggested. Hope you get that itch too. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat indeed. It would be incredibly useful to have a way to select only manually installed packages like Mats suggested. Hope you get that itch too. <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mats Taraldsvik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/15/pkcon-list-install-foopackage-list/comment-page-1/#comment-800</link>
		<dc:creator>Mats Taraldsvik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neat! A list of manually installed packages would be even better, as that&#039;s normally what you want, right?

If you make a package list after a fresh install, and then for every update. The diff between updates and the package list + the diff between &#039;all packages&#039; and (&#039;fresh install&#039;+&#039;updates&#039;) would equal manually installed updates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat! A list of manually installed packages would be even better, as that&#8217;s normally what you want, right?</p>
<p>If you make a package list after a fresh install, and then for every update. The diff between updates and the package list + the diff between &#8216;all packages&#8217; and (&#8216;fresh install&#8217;+'updates&#8217;) would equal manually installed updates.</p>
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