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		<title>By: But unlocking the device no longer makes &#124; My Web Hosting Site</title>
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		<dc:creator>But unlocking the device no longer makes &#124; My Web Hosting Site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Technical Blog of Richard Hughes » Blog Archive » Working at Red Hat  Tags: digital media, photo galleries, Red Hat   ﻿ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; Links 22/12/2008: Linux Videos and Red Hat Results Coming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; Links 22/12/2008: Linux Videos and Red Hat Results Coming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dedalus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gpoo: at least another distribution is using PackageKit as an interface to their package manager: Foresight Linux. I even think they were the first to use it officially, even before Fedora did, but I might be wrong on this one. I also think Openmoko uses it, but again I might be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/12/19/working-at-red-hatt/#comment-899">gpoo</a>: at least another distribution is using PackageKit as an interface to their package manager: Foresight Linux. I even think they were the first to use it officially, even before Fedora did, but I might be wrong on this one. I also think Openmoko uses it, but again I might be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Rui</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true Richard! Red Hat really deserves to be credited for being _the_ greatest contributor to FOSS even on areas which aren&#039;t directly profitable for them like the desktop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true Richard! Red Hat really deserves to be credited for being _the_ greatest contributor to FOSS even on areas which aren&#8217;t directly profitable for them like the desktop.</p>
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		<title>By: jef Spaleta</title>
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		<dc:creator>jef Spaleta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 20:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the answers.  I think they dovetail nicely with the story DeHaan is trying to tell with EKG and about driving community development.

It&#039;s great that Red Hat pays you to hack on stuff. But that&#039;s just the beginning of the real greatness of Red Hat.  The real greatness is that Red Hat is folstering a corporate culture that actively grows community around technology advancements.

That is the biggest hardest challenge facing corporate entities as distinct  members of the larger ecosystem.  Making corporate business culture and turning its communication outward so company employees are doing the bulk of their development interactions in the public square, even when they are talking to other employees of the same company.  I doubt Red Hat is perfect at that, but I think they are really trying as a corporate entity to have that outwardly thinking corporate culture instead of an inwardly thinking one. 

I didn&#039;t mean &#039;web forums&#039; i meant pretty much any public venue.  irc, email, webforum, whatever.  Anywhere where external community can engage and participate in the development process of that technology.  I&#039;m still looking for the best noun which describes that collection of spaces.

Since you do a lot on irc, do you archive those discussions in an organized manner?  The one thing about doing a lot of development work on irc is that it becomes harder to understand how things got from point  A to point B when trying to understand design decisions.  Mailinglist threads archives while cumbersome, are useful restrospective tools to chart the evolution of developer headspace.

-jef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the answers.  I think they dovetail nicely with the story DeHaan is trying to tell with EKG and about driving community development.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that Red Hat pays you to hack on stuff. But that&#8217;s just the beginning of the real greatness of Red Hat.  The real greatness is that Red Hat is folstering a corporate culture that actively grows community around technology advancements.</p>
<p>That is the biggest hardest challenge facing corporate entities as distinct  members of the larger ecosystem.  Making corporate business culture and turning its communication outward so company employees are doing the bulk of their development interactions in the public square, even when they are talking to other employees of the same company.  I doubt Red Hat is perfect at that, but I think they are really trying as a corporate entity to have that outwardly thinking corporate culture instead of an inwardly thinking one. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean &#8216;web forums&#8217; i meant pretty much any public venue.  irc, email, webforum, whatever.  Anywhere where external community can engage and participate in the development process of that technology.  I&#8217;m still looking for the best noun which describes that collection of spaces.</p>
<p>Since you do a lot on irc, do you archive those discussions in an organized manner?  The one thing about doing a lot of development work on irc is that it becomes harder to understand how things got from point  A to point B when trying to understand design decisions.  Mailinglist threads archives while cumbersome, are useful restrospective tools to chart the evolution of developer headspace.</p>
<p>-jef</p>
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		<title>By: Rhod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard most of your “work time” is taken up eating chocolate biscuits, drinking tea and watching Jeremy Kyle/ Trisha!!  :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard most of your “work time” is taken up eating chocolate biscuits, drinking tea and watching Jeremy Kyle/ Trisha!!  :p</p>
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		<title>By: hughsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>hughsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;As a percentage of your “work time”, how much of is done hacking on code?

I would say probably as high as 60% of time. Probably about 25% of the other time is spent on email, and the other 15% on research or testing.

&gt; how much of that is hacking on open source code? 100%?

100%.

&gt;What percentage of your “work time” is dedicated to interacting with community about the open projects you hack on?

Well, there&#039;s no company policy, but I try to reserve at least a little part of each day communicating with people. There&#039;s no point trying to develop code in secret.

&gt; how much of that communication time is spent talking on internal Red Hat channels

About 1% - but then that&#039;s mostly private stuff like pay or other RH internal stuff. Never development.

&gt; And how much is done in public forums?

0% in forums, I don&#039;t seem to get along with the &quot;moderators&quot; very well... 99% of my communication is in public IRC and public mailing lists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>As a percentage of your “work time”, how much of is done hacking on code?</p>
<p>I would say probably as high as 60% of time. Probably about 25% of the other time is spent on email, and the other 15% on research or testing.</p>
<p>> how much of that is hacking on open source code? 100%?</p>
<p>100%.</p>
<p>>What percentage of your “work time” is dedicated to interacting with community about the open projects you hack on?</p>
<p>Well, there&#8217;s no company policy, but I try to reserve at least a little part of each day communicating with people. There&#8217;s no point trying to develop code in secret.</p>
<p>> how much of that communication time is spent talking on internal Red Hat channels</p>
<p>About 1% &#8211; but then that&#8217;s mostly private stuff like pay or other RH internal stuff. Never development.</p>
<p>> And how much is done in public forums?</p>
<p>0% in forums, I don&#8217;t seem to get along with the &#8220;moderators&#8221; very well&#8230; 99% of my communication is in public IRC and public mailing lists.</p>
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		<title>By: gpoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>gpoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMVVHO, it is too early to say &quot;pk is the facto standard&quot;.  I hope it will, but probably Fedora (and deritatives) is the only one shipping it at this moment.
I&#039;m looking forward the day it will get the facto standard.

Anyway, RH rocks :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMVVHO, it is too early to say &#8220;pk is the facto standard&#8221;.  I hope it will, but probably Fedora (and deritatives) is the only one shipping it at this moment.<br />
I&#8217;m looking forward the day it will get the facto standard.</p>
<p>Anyway, RH rocks <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jakub Steiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jakub Steiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you RedHat. Thank you , Richard :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you RedHat. Thank you , Richard <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree fully, Red Hat often doesn&#039;t get credit for all the investments they make that benefit everyone. They continue to open up tools they have developed in-house, they don&#039;t have to, but Red Hat practices what they preach.

In being part of the Fedora community, I find that one of the greatest joys is getting to interact with all the fantastic people like yourself who make Linux happen. Getting to listen to the concerns of all kinds of use cases and watching the magic happen. I continue to be proud of being part of that (granted a tiny little part), and I will always be grateful to Red Hat for creating the chance for me and everyone else to take part in building something truly great and to steer the Linux platform through innovation and creativity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree fully, Red Hat often doesn&#8217;t get credit for all the investments they make that benefit everyone. They continue to open up tools they have developed in-house, they don&#8217;t have to, but Red Hat practices what they preach.</p>
<p>In being part of the Fedora community, I find that one of the greatest joys is getting to interact with all the fantastic people like yourself who make Linux happen. Getting to listen to the concerns of all kinds of use cases and watching the magic happen. I continue to be proud of being part of that (granted a tiny little part), and I will always be grateful to Red Hat for creating the chance for me and everyone else to take part in building something truly great and to steer the Linux platform through innovation and creativity.</p>
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