Comments on: gnome-shell a week later…

By: TrueTom

TrueTom — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:45:42 +0000

I hope you are aware that the “post the bug numbers” line is just an ad hominem argument. Which is probably OK since it’s basically the only response the Gnome Shell people have come up so far regarding criticism.

By: Rahul Sundaram

Rahul Sundaram — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:45:43 +0000

GNOME Shell is a distinct component from gnome-globalmenu.

By: dgrift

dgrift — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:38:32 +0000

In the places part in the activity menu, my bookmarks do not show. I have some ssh/network bookmarks and in the usual gnome places they get displayed but not in gnome-shell.

In the side bar, the time gets displayed properly (24hr the way i have configured it), but in the top bar it uses the AM/PM (not how i configured it)

I works much better than i expected.

By: gantenbein

gantenbein — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:28:21 +0000

Why is a top bar space waste? Current GNOME has even two panels. And every other environment I know of has at least one bar by default.

By: ethana2

ethana2 — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:20:47 +0000

Does it include gnome-globalmenu?

By: Ronald Damon

Ronald Damon — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:12:14 +0000

@Tim,
It may be obvious in your hardware, but are you sure that it’s obvious on the hardware of the developers? If this is the case, how are they able to fix problems they don’t know about?

Given Richard’s comments about the fast bug fixes, I don’t think that the “no, patches welcome” will be the reply. Keep in mind, GNOME is not a monolith. Different modules are managed by different people. Whatever your past experience with a specific GNOME team, it does not appear to be the case with this GNOME team.

By: Tim

Tim — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:50:41 +0000

Signing up and explaining myself just to be ignored with a “patches welcome” at best for these obvious shortcomings. I don’t think so.

By: aklapper

aklapper — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:30:12 +0000

@Tim: Feel free to post the bug numbers in GNOME Bugzilla here for the issues you’ve mentioned.

By: Jimbo

Jimbo — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:03:21 +0000

Tim sums it up above me, all the stuff he mentioned needs to be fixed before you release it into the wild.

By: Tim

Tim — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:22:27 +0000

So what else was addressed?

Slow taskswitch? Space waste top bar? Ugly zoomed icons? No config/option/hot edges? No panel gadgets? Bad layout on small screens? Empathy/Evolution/xxx integration?

That said I think these things are polish, but they need to be implemented BEFORE release day or you will get major KDE4-esque blowback. Don’t just ask around in your small little happy Gnome world or you will be hit by the uglyness of the intertubes ones this shell ships in distros.