Thanks for updating the fdi policy file, as when I come around to using it on Linux I’m sure it’ll be appreciated, although I mainly just copy the files over by hand.

I too wish that they just used a mini/microUSB connector instead of the proprietary one. It’s good news that the Clip uses this.

People should support Sandisk for officially supporting OGG and FLAC. I wouldn’t have considered buying one of their players without hearing that the firmware update to support this was imminent. I hope Rockbox can work out how to do firmware on these ‘v2′ models.

I think it’s all.

My player has seen a windows system only few days ago, just for some hours… (to recharge the battery, what you can actually do on linux too)

- that the .ogg and .flac support for the players is an official patch
- there are descriptions on how to update the firmware for Windows, Mac and Linux

How would you get support from anyone with external firmware, nevermind which os you’re on? I don’t see the argument against the sansa players, here…

I looked at the Cowon players also, though, but they are f*cking expensive compared to the Fuze/Clip…

I’m considering one of these: http://www.cowonglobal.com/ (click mp3 on top… it’s a silly flash site). But I personally can’t decide whenever I should get a player with video or not, and if I get it with video, I might as well get a Ubuntu MID when one of those is out

(for now, I’m just re-using an old phone that’s not in service anymore as a player. Oddly enough, when connected to Ubuntu, it recognizes it as a source of broadband internet but not a music player, so I have to take the internal card out. But I can’t complain, I got it for free)

There is some Windows only software for the device used to convert videos to a form usable by the device. I guess that could be classed as lost value, but I haven’t felt a need to put videos on the device yet (the screen is fairly small). If I did, I imagine that ffmpeg or mplayer could be used to do the format conversion.

Out of interest, what is the other device you’re considering? I’m happy with what I’ve got, but I’d be interested to know about other viable alternatives.

Unofficial support is certainly nice – they are not guaranteed to provide it or service as a first-priority. Nor would you might be getting all the features you paid for since they’re windows-only (had this with a webcam – zero which support linux. went with one that worked out of the box fine, but ofc the fancy editing programs that came with it are windows-only and lost value to me).

Thanks for clearing up that it works, but there is another player which holds higher values (and no, I am not a purist, I run the nvidia proprietary drivers just fine. I am just logical in my purchasing power.)

Mats: the .ogv extension is correct for Theora videos. See http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/MIME_Types_and_File_Extensions for details. That page also defines use of .oga for ogg encapsulated audio other than the existing Vorbis and Speex formats. The recommendation to continue using .ogg or .spx for these files is precisely to maintain compatibility with devices like the Fuze.

For one GNOME release, the “CD Quality, Lossy” profile had been changed to use the .oga extension. I called this nonsense because it was still producing Vorbis I Profile data, which should still be using the .ogg extension. That bug has since been corrected.

@James, Dave : The Clip and Fuze are known for their sound quality – it beats most players (after what I’ve heard – in both senses ).

@Vadim. : I don’t get your negativity. You could look at it from another point of view, though :

- The sansa team actually support their devices after they have been sold, adding new features and such.
- In the forums, they (that is both the sansa team and community) provide solutions for Windows, Mac AND Linux.

( If you had bothered with researching etc, etc )

Also, if you buy the player, noone is forcing you to update the firmware. The player worked well in Linux with the firmware that was on the player when I bought it, and still does, with the latest firmware. I _love_ it: Cheap, good sound quality and interface, works well in Linux.