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	<title>Comments on: Give more color to the world!</title>
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		<title>By: nicu buculei</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/2008/03/31/give-more-color-to-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator>nicu buculei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like grey. It is very neutral and unobtrusive. Boring is good, my attention can focus to the content.

I hate the themes that hurt my eyes with very bright colors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like grey. It is very neutral and unobtrusive. Boring is good, my attention can focus to the content.</p>
<p>I hate the themes that hurt my eyes with very bright colors.</p>
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		<title>By: Murat</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/2008/03/31/give-more-color-to-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Murat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to those who point to the fact that OSX is mostly gray: 

The strength of the OSX design lies in its very ability to *break* the blandness of the gray that it uses all over the place. With theme elements that make sparse use of sparse bold, saturated color, with detailed, colorful, emotion provoking, high resolution icons, with smooth, anti-aliased accentuation of gray theme elements, and more.

Our current monochromatism and lack of contrast can only be amended by more courage to break the norms we put in for good effect, better coordination between people responsible from desktop technologies and theme designers, and better knowledge of design history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to those who point to the fact that OSX is mostly gray: </p>
<p>The strength of the OSX design lies in its very ability to *break* the blandness of the gray that it uses all over the place. With theme elements that make sparse use of sparse bold, saturated color, with detailed, colorful, emotion provoking, high resolution icons, with smooth, anti-aliased accentuation of gray theme elements, and more.</p>
<p>Our current monochromatism and lack of contrast can only be amended by more courage to break the norms we put in for good effect, better coordination between people responsible from desktop technologies and theme designers, and better knowledge of design history.</p>
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		<title>By: je</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/2008/03/31/give-more-color-to-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>je</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I find myself wasting time, trying out different themes, etc.  I always seem to end up back where I started, using the default theme that ships with GNOME.  Only thing I&#039;ve found I stick with is the Gilouche window decoration.

Also one thing I noticed about KDE 4 that was kinda interesting.  I was kinda wondering why their main panel was black, and then in recent screenshots I clued into the fact that it&#039;s style is based on the Plasma widget theme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I find myself wasting time, trying out different themes, etc.  I always seem to end up back where I started, using the default theme that ships with GNOME.  Only thing I&#8217;ve found I stick with is the Gilouche window decoration.</p>
<p>Also one thing I noticed about KDE 4 that was kinda interesting.  I was kinda wondering why their main panel was black, and then in recent screenshots I clued into the fact that it&#8217;s style is based on the Plasma widget theme.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt W</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/2008/03/31/give-more-color-to-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I love the grey with bright highlights. I&#039;ve currently got a fairly intense mid green as the Clearlooks selection colour on my laptop, with a light grey base and I think it looks really bright and cheerful.

My desktop has similar, but the selection colour is a crimson sort of hue which makes everything feel much richer and altogether odder. Of course, that colour isn&#039;t visible on initial login but the default wallpapers these days are pretty snazzy.

And I don&#039;t think distros would like a fixed GNOME theme - they&#039;re too used to doing their own ugly branding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I love the grey with bright highlights. I&#8217;ve currently got a fairly intense mid green as the Clearlooks selection colour on my laptop, with a light grey base and I think it looks really bright and cheerful.</p>
<p>My desktop has similar, but the selection colour is a crimson sort of hue which makes everything feel much richer and altogether odder. Of course, that colour isn&#8217;t visible on initial login but the default wallpapers these days are pretty snazzy.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think distros would like a fixed GNOME theme &#8211; they&#8217;re too used to doing their own ugly branding.</p>
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		<title>By: AGREED</title>
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		<dc:creator>AGREED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree. I posted before I thought ubuntu should try to model the desktop design after a wooden desktop or using lots of tans, like Apple has ton with metals, but instead wood. There&#039;s no gray at all in wood, just tans and browns and stuff.

Or, for another analogy, at least where I leave, making it look like the modern colors people paint there homes in the modern years. A bunch of different tans again. Tan is a neutral color that fits Ubuntu&#039;s color scheme goals very well. Vibrant browns, tans, peaches, etc can work great, and Ubuntu needs to bring them out, they are more natural then then gray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree. I posted before I thought ubuntu should try to model the desktop design after a wooden desktop or using lots of tans, like Apple has ton with metals, but instead wood. There&#8217;s no gray at all in wood, just tans and browns and stuff.</p>
<p>Or, for another analogy, at least where I leave, making it look like the modern colors people paint there homes in the modern years. A bunch of different tans again. Tan is a neutral color that fits Ubuntu&#8217;s color scheme goals very well. Vibrant browns, tans, peaches, etc can work great, and Ubuntu needs to bring them out, they are more natural then then gray.</p>
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		<title>By: ato</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/2008/03/31/give-more-color-to-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>ato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love gray!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love gray!</p>
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		<title>By: simontol</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/2008/03/31/give-more-color-to-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>simontol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I think &quot;more color&quot; I think at something like this:
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Gelatin?content=74451

Please stop the dark-desktop trend... It&#039;s so sad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think &#8220;more color&#8221; I think at something like this:<br />
<a href="http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Gelatin?content=74451" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Gelatin?content=74451</a></p>
<p>Please stop the dark-desktop trend&#8230; It&#8217;s so sad!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/2008/03/31/give-more-color-to-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the past I have had people use a GNOME desktop for the first time and say the gray decor reminds them of Windows 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the past I have had people use a GNOME desktop for the first time and say the gray decor reminds them of Windows 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Dread Knight</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/2008/03/31/give-more-color-to-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Dread Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1
:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1<br />
 <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile-big.png' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Calum</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/2008/03/31/give-more-color-to-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>Calum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;ve always secretly wished we could get rid of themes, and allow our artists to build one (or maybe two or three closely related), kickass GNOME or freedesktop &quot;theme(s)&quot;.

That&#039;s one of the reasons OS X and Windows look as polished as they do-- their visual designers can concentrate on finely honing every pixel, without having to worry about things like &quot;will this window still work if the user decides to use different buttons?&quot;  The very fact that we have to make everything themeable slows down development, generates bugs, makes our stuff run slower, and ultimately limits our ability to innovate on the desktop, IMHO.

A nice side effect would be that, finally, our desktop would be immediately identifiable as &quot;GNOME&quot;, wherever it&#039;s run and whoever&#039;s running it-- instant brand awareness :)  (Of course, accessible visuals would still have to be supported, but OS X and Windows both manage that too.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve always secretly wished we could get rid of themes, and allow our artists to build one (or maybe two or three closely related), kickass GNOME or freedesktop &#8220;theme(s)&#8221;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of the reasons OS X and Windows look as polished as they do&#8211; their visual designers can concentrate on finely honing every pixel, without having to worry about things like &#8220;will this window still work if the user decides to use different buttons?&#8221;  The very fact that we have to make everything themeable slows down development, generates bugs, makes our stuff run slower, and ultimately limits our ability to innovate on the desktop, IMHO.</p>
<p>A nice side effect would be that, finally, our desktop would be immediately identifiable as &#8220;GNOME&#8221;, wherever it&#8217;s run and whoever&#8217;s running it&#8211; instant brand awareness <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   (Of course, accessible visuals would still have to be supported, but OS X and Windows both manage that too.)</p>
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