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	<title>Comments on: Congratulations Xfce</title>
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		<title>By: Xfce News &#187; Weekly news? Nah.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johncarr/2008/09/16/congratulations-xfce/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Xfce News &#187; Weekly news? Nah.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on news sites and forums have been quite mixed (as expected) we surprisingly received some very positive feedback from GNOME for xfconf. To me this gives proof that we did the right thing for 4.6. When we discussed the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on news sites and forums have been quite mixed (as expected) we surprisingly received some very positive feedback from GNOME for xfconf. To me this gives proof that we did the right thing for 4.6. When we discussed the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Snark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johncarr/2008/09/16/congratulations-xfce/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Snark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a very helpful link :
http://mocha.xfce.org/~kelnos/xfconf/docs-current/

(yes, I did consider adding the possibility for xfconf in ekiga)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a very helpful link :<br />
<a href="http://mocha.xfce.org/~kelnos/xfconf/docs-current/" rel="nofollow">http://mocha.xfce.org/~kelnos/xfconf/docs-current/</a></p>
<p>(yes, I did consider adding the possibility for xfconf in ekiga)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Tarricone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johncarr/2008/09/16/congratulations-xfce/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Tarricone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John, thanks for the congrats, and also thanks for being positive about xfconf.  I&#039;ve been avoiding reading review sites because I&#039;d rather not raise my blood pressure reading things like &quot;ZOMG xfce has a registry now thats so lame!!111&quot; and &quot;they wrote their own gconf thats so stupid!!!11one&quot; etc.

I of course looked at dconf/GSettings (among many other things) before writing xfconf, but, as others have noted, I wanted something ready that we could use in a reasonable amount of time.  I also wanted something simpler, without requiring schema (though I&#039;ve since come to think better of them in many respects).  Of course, xfconf has grown beyond the &quot;little simple centralised config system&quot; I first envisioned, but it&#039;s still decently small.

Anyhow, I&#039;d be thrilled to help sharing it with the GNOME community were anyone interested.  It could still use a lot of work and a lot of optimisation...  I didn&#039;t really know anything about configuration management before I started, and I&#039;m sure that shows in both the design and implementation.

For the record, I was considering xfconf to be more of a temporary solution until dconf/GSettings (or maybe something else) had worked itself out, but it&#039;d be cool to see xfconf get a bit more use if people find it worthy.

And as Stephan says, we can certainly change the name to help quell NIH syndrome ^_~.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John, thanks for the congrats, and also thanks for being positive about xfconf.  I&#8217;ve been avoiding reading review sites because I&#8217;d rather not raise my blood pressure reading things like &#8220;ZOMG xfce has a registry now thats so lame!!111&#8243; and &#8220;they wrote their own gconf thats so stupid!!!11one&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>I of course looked at dconf/GSettings (among many other things) before writing xfconf, but, as others have noted, I wanted something ready that we could use in a reasonable amount of time.  I also wanted something simpler, without requiring schema (though I&#8217;ve since come to think better of them in many respects).  Of course, xfconf has grown beyond the &#8220;little simple centralised config system&#8221; I first envisioned, but it&#8217;s still decently small.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I&#8217;d be thrilled to help sharing it with the GNOME community were anyone interested.  It could still use a lot of work and a lot of optimisation&#8230;  I didn&#8217;t really know anything about configuration management before I started, and I&#8217;m sure that shows in both the design and implementation.</p>
<p>For the record, I was considering xfconf to be more of a temporary solution until dconf/GSettings (or maybe something else) had worked itself out, but it&#8217;d be cool to see xfconf get a bit more use if people find it worthy.</p>
<p>And as Stephan says, we can certainly change the name to help quell NIH syndrome ^_~.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Otte</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johncarr/2008/09/16/congratulations-xfce/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Otte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest problem with dconf as far as I can see it is that it&#039;s done by a chronical perfectionist. So it will be ready when either there is nothing to complain about anymore (and that includes doing perfect locking over NFS) or when someone else just ships it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest problem with dconf as far as I can see it is that it&#8217;s done by a chronical perfectionist. So it will be ready when either there is nothing to complain about anymore (and that includes doing perfect locking over NFS) or when someone else just ships it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Carr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johncarr/2008/09/16/congratulations-xfce/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>John Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Peter, (based on current chatter in #gnome-hackers) gconf-dbus is considered a work around-ish hack for GNOME Mobile (where legacy is less of an issue). It is not a solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter, (based on current chatter in #gnome-hackers) gconf-dbus is considered a work around-ish hack for GNOME Mobile (where legacy is less of an issue). It is not a solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Reinout van Schouwen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johncarr/2008/09/16/congratulations-xfce/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Reinout van Schouwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like, xdconf? (like other x-desktop stuff on freedesktop.org)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like, xdconf? (like other x-desktop stuff on freedesktop.org)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johncarr/2008/09/16/congratulations-xfce/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GConf-dbus is part of the gnome mobile release so that can&#039;t be dead. See post here http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mobile-devel-list/2008-September/msg00016.html  and follow download link for latest release</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GConf-dbus is part of the gnome mobile release so that can&#8217;t be dead. See post here <a href="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mobile-devel-list/2008-September/msg00016.html" rel="nofollow">http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mobile-devel-list/2008-September/msg00016.html</a>  and follow download link for latest release</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Arts</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johncarr/2008/09/16/congratulations-xfce/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Arts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We could always consider renaming the little beast ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could always consider renaming the little beast <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/johncarr/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Carr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johncarr/2008/09/16/congratulations-xfce/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>John Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jasper, Stephan. Just to make sure my post was clear: I think that unless someone picks up dconf/gconf-dbus now and starts running with it really really fast, GNOME should think about just using Xfconf. And I hope that if they do pick up something other than Xfconf, its for a reason other than the &quot;Xf&quot; in the name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jasper, Stephan. Just to make sure my post was clear: I think that unless someone picks up dconf/gconf-dbus now and starts running with it really really fast, GNOME should think about just using Xfconf. And I hope that if they do pick up something other than Xfconf, its for a reason other than the &#8220;Xf&#8221; in the name.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/johncarr/2008/09/16/congratulations-xfce/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephan.  You&#039;re right, but I&#039;m sure it can pick up steam quickly if one or more GNOME developers decide to spend some time on it.  

What I actually meant to say is that we are always willing to consider alternatives, if they are real alternatives (i.e. released software). We&#039;re not really in a position where we can afford to use external components that are too much in flux.

On the other hand, yeah, sometimes it&#039;s easier (in the short run) to do something ourselves than to work with other people. And -- hello Rob -- it _is_ our sandbox after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephan.  You&#8217;re right, but I&#8217;m sure it can pick up steam quickly if one or more GNOME developers decide to spend some time on it.  </p>
<p>What I actually meant to say is that we are always willing to consider alternatives, if they are real alternatives (i.e. released software). We&#8217;re not really in a position where we can afford to use external components that are too much in flux.</p>
<p>On the other hand, yeah, sometimes it&#8217;s easier (in the short run) to do something ourselves than to work with other people. And &#8212; hello Rob &#8212; it _is_ our sandbox after all.</p>
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