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	<title>Comments on: Choosing a default Messenger client</title>
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	<description>a geek rants!</description>
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		<title>By: bertux</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/2007/11/21/choosing-a-default-messenger-client/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>bertux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completly with Boke, he has writen exactly the answer i wanted to write.
Thanks Boke for this comment.
Thanks Ken for your Gnome packaging :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completly with Boke, he has writen exactly the answer i wanted to write.<br />
Thanks Boke for this comment.<br />
Thanks Ken for your Gnome packaging <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Boke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/2007/11/21/choosing-a-default-messenger-client/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Boke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Empathy and telepathy are great projects. And they really need an inclusion by default in a distribution such as foresight. Empathy is starting to get stable and usable, has a good UI that respects as much as possible the Gnome&#039;s HIG, it can only get better by being included in Foresight.
And the constant upgrade process of foresight is great for young projects.

My opinion is that telepathy and empathy would benefit a lot of Foresight and they are projects that diserves to be helped.
Go for Empathy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Empathy and telepathy are great projects. And they really need an inclusion by default in a distribution such as foresight. Empathy is starting to get stable and usable, has a good UI that respects as much as possible the Gnome&#8217;s HIG, it can only get better by being included in Foresight.<br />
And the constant upgrade process of foresight is great for young projects.</p>
<p>My opinion is that telepathy and empathy would benefit a lot of Foresight and they are projects that diserves to be helped.<br />
Go for Empathy!</p>
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		<title>By: eosten</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/2007/11/21/choosing-a-default-messenger-client/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>eosten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 05:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would keep Pidgin as the default but include Telepathy + Empathy for early adopters. Empathy and the rest of the Telepathy stack still represent a pretty significant regression in features compared to Pidgin, though it depends on the connection manager (telepathy-haze, last I checked, couldn&#039;t do simple things like set buddy icons). Later, when the underlying Telepathy layers flesh out a bit and when Empathy becomes better-integrated, switch to using that by default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would keep Pidgin as the default but include Telepathy + Empathy for early adopters. Empathy and the rest of the Telepathy stack still represent a pretty significant regression in features compared to Pidgin, though it depends on the connection manager (telepathy-haze, last I checked, couldn&#8217;t do simple things like set buddy icons). Later, when the underlying Telepathy layers flesh out a bit and when Empathy becomes better-integrated, switch to using that by default.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/2007/11/21/choosing-a-default-messenger-client/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt pidgin will remain in the repo, easy to install.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt pidgin will remain in the repo, easy to install.</p>
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		<title>By: eddymul</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/2007/11/21/choosing-a-default-messenger-client/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>eddymul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most users will expect Gaim/Pidgin to be there.

I&#039;d vote to default to Telepathy/Empathy (because it is *Foresight* Linux), but keep Pidgin around (or make it *very obvious* in the documentation on how to install pidgin)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most users will expect Gaim/Pidgin to be there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d vote to default to Telepathy/Empathy (because it is *Foresight* Linux), but keep Pidgin around (or make it *very obvious* in the documentation on how to install pidgin)</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/2007/11/21/choosing-a-default-messenger-client/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Empathy is cool and rocks hard.

But for happy customers you would need telepathy-haze and therefore libpurple anyway.

So which one has the better UI and is better integrated?

I would say +1 for empathy (especially when looking at future plug-ins etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Empathy is cool and rocks hard.</p>
<p>But for happy customers you would need telepathy-haze and therefore libpurple anyway.</p>
<p>So which one has the better UI and is better integrated?</p>
<p>I would say +1 for empathy (especially when looking at future plug-ins etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: szegey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/2007/11/21/choosing-a-default-messenger-client/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>szegey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m too very excited about telepathy. I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s ready to be default.
But Foresight is about the latest and greatest of the GNOME Desktop Environment and Freedesktop.org, so why not? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m too very excited about telepathy. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s ready to be default.<br />
But Foresight is about the latest and greatest of the GNOME Desktop Environment and Freedesktop.org, so why not? <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lovechild</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/2007/11/21/choosing-a-default-messenger-client/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Lovechild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happily using Empathy for all my protocols (msn and aim thanks to the libpurple based haze telepathy element).

It still needs work but it has served me well for a long time. I&#039;m fairly interested in Banter but development seems to have stalled currently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happily using Empathy for all my protocols (msn and aim thanks to the libpurple based haze telepathy element).</p>
<p>It still needs work but it has served me well for a long time. I&#8217;m fairly interested in Banter but development seems to have stalled currently.</p>
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		<title>By: simontol</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/2007/11/21/choosing-a-default-messenger-client/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>simontol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the telepathy idea, hope it is usable enough for everyday at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the telepathy idea, hope it is usable enough for everyday at this time.</p>
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