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		<title>Comment on We Deliver by Máirín Duffy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/11/22/we-deliver/comment-page-1/#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>Máirín Duffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey McCann, any plans for boxes to also share out / some kind of vino integration maybe? E.g., across my boxes whether or not they&#039;re local, remote, virtual, could I click a button and share the box with another user?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey McCann, any plans for boxes to also share out / some kind of vino integration maybe? E.g., across my boxes whether or not they&#8217;re local, remote, virtual, could I click a button and share the box with another user?</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Deliver by Zeeshan Ali</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/11/22/we-deliver/comment-page-1/#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeeshan Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim,
 
1. We don&#039;t want or expect your mom to know what a VM is and if Boxes forces people to know these things, we have failed indeed in our goals. Having said that, we would want to entertain the following scenerios:
  a. Your mom sees a new OS (version) on the internet somewhere. She clicks &#039;download&#039; to &#039;try it now&#039; link and from that point on we should be presenting her with simple/easy/intuitive UIs to take her to her goal: Try the damn OS.
  b. Someone gives her a bootable media (DVD or USB). She knows inserts it and tada we do the same (or very similar) to what we do in case a.

2. As you can see (https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/) Jon is working on the designs for all the essential application, including the ones you mentioned. Now someone needs to implement them. Since I am more interested/motivated to work on Boxes, I am implementing that. You are more than welcome to implement and even design the ones that you think are more important. This is open-source, people work on what they want to work on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim,</p>
<p>1. We don&#8217;t want or expect your mom to know what a VM is and if Boxes forces people to know these things, we have failed indeed in our goals. Having said that, we would want to entertain the following scenerios:<br />
  a. Your mom sees a new OS (version) on the internet somewhere. She clicks &#8216;download&#8217; to &#8216;try it now&#8217; link and from that point on we should be presenting her with simple/easy/intuitive UIs to take her to her goal: Try the damn OS.<br />
  b. Someone gives her a bootable media (DVD or USB). She knows inserts it and tada we do the same (or very similar) to what we do in case a.</p>
<p>2. As you can see (<a href="https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/" rel="nofollow">https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/</a>) Jon is working on the designs for all the essential application, including the ones you mentioned. Now someone needs to implement them. Since I am more interested/motivated to work on Boxes, I am implementing that. You are more than welcome to implement and even design the ones that you think are more important. This is open-source, people work on what they want to work on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Deliver by Tyler</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/11/22/we-deliver/comment-page-1/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Kim on this. The new look of GNOME is seeming directed at My Mom™ in making it super-simple and straightforward, but My Mom™ is typically far more concerned about communication and photos, maybe a calendar, than virtual machines and remote access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kim on this. The new look of GNOME is seeming directed at My Mom™ in making it super-simple and straightforward, but My Mom™ is typically far more concerned about communication and photos, maybe a calendar, than virtual machines and remote access.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Deliver by Pradyumna Dandwate</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/11/22/we-deliver/comment-page-1/#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>Pradyumna Dandwate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like just another Remote Desktop software at first, but I guess there is a huge potential of becoming a great remote application manager or a multiple systems manager or something like that. We can just imagine.

Keep up, we want this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like just another Remote Desktop software at first, but I guess there is a huge potential of becoming a great remote application manager or a multiple systems manager or something like that. We can just imagine.</p>
<p>Keep up, we want this!</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Deliver by Alon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/11/22/we-deliver/comment-page-1/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anonymous, quote: &quot;For Linux, ideally I’d suggest using the new virtio 9P support in QEMU/KVM.&quot; - guess someone needs to write a windows virtio-9p driver. volunteers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anonymous, quote: &#8220;For Linux, ideally I’d suggest using the new virtio 9P support in QEMU/KVM.&#8221; &#8211; guess someone needs to write a windows virtio-9p driver. volunteers?</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Deliver by Alon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/11/22/we-deliver/comment-page-1/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SPICE doesn&#039;t help with running on a local vm. Well, qxl does, but the protocol should be replaced with some shared memory passthrough (we&#039;ve discussed this before, just, you know, someone needs to work on it and everyone has been working on boxes :P).

Other then that great read, thanks for writing it, and of course I love to have another use case for spice :)

Alon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPICE doesn&#8217;t help with running on a local vm. Well, qxl does, but the protocol should be replaced with some shared memory passthrough (we&#8217;ve discussed this before, just, you know, someone needs to work on it and everyone has been working on boxes <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-raspberry.png' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
<p>Other then that great read, thanks for writing it, and of course I love to have another use case for spice <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Alon</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Deliver by bobpoljakov</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/11/22/we-deliver/comment-page-1/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>bobpoljakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m 100% ok with you, I whish you had designed gnome-shell.&quot;

As far as I know, he is one of the guys who designed gnome-shell. Which is great, and well designed, anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m 100% ok with you, I whish you had designed gnome-shell.&#8221;</p>
<p>As far as I know, he is one of the guys who designed gnome-shell. Which is great, and well designed, anyways.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Deliver by kaillasse77</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/11/22/we-deliver/comment-page-1/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>kaillasse77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be great to have clients for windows and macosx too, if you&#039;re planning to use spice I&#039;m not sure this is already ok for mac osx. For not-server user I think there is progress with opengl-es acceleration in spice woud be nice to run it inside boxes but perhaps you&#039;re just interested in the front-end.
Seems like a great project for gnome ;)



&quot;We’re taking a different approach. We’re focusing on you. Your stuff. Your work. Your time.&quot;
I&#039;m 100% ok with you, I whish you had designed gnome-shell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be great to have clients for windows and macosx too, if you&#8217;re planning to use spice I&#8217;m not sure this is already ok for mac osx. For not-server user I think there is progress with opengl-es acceleration in spice woud be nice to run it inside boxes but perhaps you&#8217;re just interested in the front-end.<br />
Seems like a great project for gnome <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;We’re taking a different approach. We’re focusing on you. Your stuff. Your work. Your time.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m 100% ok with you, I whish you had designed gnome-shell.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Deliver by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/11/22/we-deliver/comment-page-1/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boxes looks awesome.

Do you plan to handle folder-sharing between the guest and host?  For Windows, that probably requires careful integration of Samba.  For Linux, ideally I&#039;d suggest using the new virtio 9P support in QEMU/KVM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boxes looks awesome.</p>
<p>Do you plan to handle folder-sharing between the guest and host?  For Windows, that probably requires careful integration of Samba.  For Linux, ideally I&#8217;d suggest using the new virtio 9P support in QEMU/KVM.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Deliver by Kim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/11/22/we-deliver/comment-page-1/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not discussing the merits of Boxes, it really looks like a neat application...
however I feel kind of confused. You (by that I mean the GNOME project) have streamlined/simplified (some would say dumbed down) the UI to the max, with the motto that this should be, out of the box, the perfect setup for the Mythical Desktop User™, (which is not a computer geek, not a sysadmin) who needs to do Real Work™ (which apparently cannot be anything that has to do with computer or programming...). And the first big application that you advertise is an application to run VMs and remote applications. What about contacts, calendar, an office suite, a decent VoIP/SIP client.  My Mom™ uses all this things, yet she doesn&#039;t know what a VM is nor that you can even run applications remotely (whatever that means).
This makes it hard to understand the goals and directions of the GNOME project. But long live Boxes, I *know* i&#039;ll be using it a lot. My Mom™ won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not discussing the merits of Boxes, it really looks like a neat application&#8230;<br />
however I feel kind of confused. You (by that I mean the GNOME project) have streamlined/simplified (some would say dumbed down) the UI to the max, with the motto that this should be, out of the box, the perfect setup for the Mythical Desktop User™, (which is not a computer geek, not a sysadmin) who needs to do Real Work™ (which apparently cannot be anything that has to do with computer or programming&#8230;). And the first big application that you advertise is an application to run VMs and remote applications. What about contacts, calendar, an office suite, a decent VoIP/SIP client.  My Mom™ uses all this things, yet she doesn&#8217;t know what a VM is nor that you can even run applications remotely (whatever that means).<br />
This makes it hard to understand the goals and directions of the GNOME project. But long live Boxes, I *know* i&#8217;ll be using it a lot. My Mom™ won&#8217;t.</p>
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