Comments on: 2007-11-14: a quieter day than usual

By: John

John — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:58:44 +0000

I used pre-Fusion Compiz briefly, but switched back because of some problems with VMWare Workstation on it.

But the reason I’m *staying* with Metacity is its polish:
* nice window edge resistance – window-window, but also window-screen edge (when those behaviors were added a few releases ago, I was won over for good)
* proper window centering (I have a panel on the right of my screen besides one at the top)
* use of “real” workspaces rather than a single large one divided into some number (this makes a difference for e.g. centering with Devil’s Pie)
* the hope of eventually getting “real” transparency, without massive configuration boxes ;-)

Lots of people talk about the merits of true alpha transparency, but everyone seems to forget about the panels: Transparent windows may or may not be useful (Gaussian blur is a nice helper, as mentioned by Iaian in a comment to a future post). But true transparency for panels is a killer: they’re fixed and always-on-top, so it’s be *great* to see partially hidden windows when they’re slid underneath.

Sure, I’ll take (and probably like) some other features, e.g. previews in tabs (though the version of Compiz I used wasn’t very useful when I had a mix of GEdit and Thunderbird compose windows open). But I prefer the window-handling features of Metacity over bling, from my experience…

By: Screwtape

Screwtape — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:34:06 +0000

I tried compiz for a while when Fedora 6 came out, the things that drove me back to Metacity included:

* Metacity lets me switch between Qwerty and Dvorak keyboard layouts globally, not just per-window.
* With Metacity, windows at the left-edge of the left-most workspace don’t get hidden from the pager when you move to the right-most workspace (assuming a horizontal linear workspace layout)
* A wider selection of themes available (well, at the time, anyway)
* Being a Mac user, I prefer to have things like window-move bound to Super-drag rather than Alt-drag – compiz seemed to reset those settings every time I logged in.

In general, Metacity seems to be better at actually managing windows and behaving in a sensible, orderly fashion. Currently I’m running Metacity and a trunk build of xcompiz for transparent gnome-terminals, and it’s pretty sweet.

By: iain

iain — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:40:24 +0000

I use metacity because Compiss lives up to its name: It takes the “com” from “compositor” and the “piss” from “Piss poor window manager”

I too would like Dropshadows and transparency, or wait, I have them :)
I suspect window previews won’t be too hard to do either actually, although I don’t think the compositor does them…Maybe I’ll explain once I work out how to post to the metacity blog…

By: jdub

jdub — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:58:20 +0000

I use metacity because Compiz is the ghost of evil Sawfish past, and is here solely for the purpose of harvesting on our brains.

By: Thomas Thurman

Thomas Thurman — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:50:13 +0000

Pete, joe: Iain is currently working on a compositor rewrite, which is looking promising; he’ll be blogging about that in a bit, I think.

By: joe

joe — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:48:55 +0000

Metacity just handles the more subtle aspects of window management better. Focus stealing prevention, maximized windows following fitts law, and a number of other, minor things that are hard to quantify, but just work better in metacity than compiz. Also, compiz tends to hard freeze my machine after the screensaver kicks in (nvidia binary driver). Now if only the metacity compositor worked (last I tried it got the blue screen bug), it’d be the perfectest!

By: Pete

Pete — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:35:14 +0000

I’m also back to using Metacity. Mainly for compatability and focus reasons, but there are things I really miss from Compiz.

Dropshadows
Window previews
Transparency
The ‘create’ and ‘close’ effect that comes with Ubuntu’s ‘minimal’ default. (I believe this is the same as vista’s effect)

By: LaGrange

LaGrange — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:06:44 +0000

Reason 1: video handling with composite is broken and will be for some time.
Reason 2: less flicker at startup is slicker than Expose

And, generally, Metacity is more polished.