Comments on: Zenity, sessions, and window matching http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/2009/02/20/zenity-sessions-and-window-matching/ "Many window managers are like Marshmallow Froot Loops; Metacity is like Cheerios." Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:08:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Squib of the day: Restore z-order - …for the adult in you http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/2009/02/20/zenity-sessions-and-window-matching/comment-page-1/#comment-892 Squib of the day: Restore z-order - …for the adult in you Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:01:18 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/?p=397#comment-892 [...] restoration is currently broken anyway, but whether we fix that by making sessions work again or by implementing window matching, we need to make sure that z-order is restored [...] [...] restoration is currently broken anyway, but whether we fix that by making sessions work again or by implementing window matching, we need to make sure that z-order is restored [...]

]]> By: Thomas Thurman http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/2009/02/20/zenity-sessions-and-window-matching/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Thomas Thurman Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:58:44 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/?p=397#comment-806 @Graeme Pietersz: There's no question that session management is broken. The question I'm considering, though, is whether implementing window matching (i.e. the windows come back where you put them, both across sessions and during sessions) would do everything that session management does and more. It would be a fair amount of work to fix session management, and perhaps this work would be more fruitfully put into replacing it with window matching. @Graeme Pietersz:

There’s no question that session management is broken. The question I’m considering, though, is whether implementing window matching (i.e. the windows come back where you put them, both across sessions and during sessions) would do everything that session management does and more. It would be a fair amount of work to fix session management, and perhaps this work would be more fruitfully put into replacing it with window matching.

]]> By: Graeme Pietersz http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/2009/02/20/zenity-sessions-and-window-matching/comment-page-1/#comment-805 Graeme Pietersz Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:25:31 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/?p=397#comment-805 Session management is not used, because it is broken. There is no noticeable crash, but I find that Epiphany and Firefox act as though they are recovering from a crash when I next start them after logging out with them running. Please, please get session management working. I have recently switched from KDE to Gnome, and it is the single feature that I miss most. Session management is not used, because it is broken.

There is no noticeable crash, but I find that Epiphany and Firefox act as though they are recovering from a crash when I next start them after logging out with them running.

Please, please get session management working. I have recently switched from KDE to Gnome, and it is the single feature that I miss most.

]]> By: Keywan http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/2009/02/20/zenity-sessions-and-window-matching/comment-page-1/#comment-803 Keywan Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:55:19 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/?p=397#comment-803 I loved session management, but it seems to me broken at the moment. Some examples: - Epiphany didn't restore windows automatically, but it's own session manager starts and ask me for this - Tomboy starts with the search window - Abiword or OpenOffice didn't remember the documents I really would like to see a good session management.. A "zero-conf"* window-matching sound cool, too. *Regarding to german ubuntu list, their seems to be crazy tools remembering and placing windows and you can setup every pixel.. I loved session management, but it seems to me broken at the moment. Some examples:

- Epiphany didn’t restore windows automatically, but it’s own session manager starts and ask me for this
- Tomboy starts with the search window
- Abiword or OpenOffice didn’t remember the documents

I really would like to see a good session management.. A “zero-conf”* window-matching sound cool, too.

*Regarding to german ubuntu list, their seems to be crazy tools remembering and placing windows and you can setup every pixel..

]]> By: Thomas Thurman http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/2009/02/20/zenity-sessions-and-window-matching/comment-page-1/#comment-802 Thomas Thurman Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:27:21 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/?p=397#comment-802 @Bunty: It's true that session management also is supposed to remember the state of each application, but that's nothing to do with the window manager. As far as the WM knows, all that's needed is to place each window at the size and position it was at before, and on the same desktop. @Bunty:

It’s true that session management also is supposed to remember the state of each application, but that’s nothing to do with the window manager. As far as the WM knows, all that’s needed is to place each window at the size and position it was at before, and on the same desktop.

]]> By: Bunty http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/2009/02/20/zenity-sessions-and-window-matching/comment-page-1/#comment-800 Bunty Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:48:51 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/?p=397#comment-800 I don't see that much overlap between session management and window matching. Session management remembers the state of each application- at the very least, which documents were open, and potentially even things like the Undo stack for each application, but certainly not just where it should go on my desktop. I don’t see that much overlap between session management and window matching. Session management remembers the state of each application- at the very least, which documents were open, and potentially even things like the Undo stack for each application, but certainly not just where it should go on my desktop.

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