Comments on: The “Global Database Market”

By: mneptok

mneptok — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:42:45 +0000

I personnally don’t trust the free stuffs for my personal use and definitely not for corporate nervous system.

So, you don’t use:

1). The Linux kernel

2). Apache

3). PHP/Python/etc

4). Sendmail/Postfix/Dovecot/etc

Or any other such free solutions? Really?

What, exactly, do you recommend for the “corporate nervous system?” Windows Server running IIS and Exchange? Because Google uses the LAMP stack, and I’m guessing their deployments are larger and more mission-critical than most.

By: raj

raj — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:36:16 +0000

All revinue based growth analysis are misleading. For example Pracle charges very high price on TPM basis. Then comes SQL server and DB2(IBM). So in reallity more tansaction growth happens on DB2 than Oracle. Oracle and its cheif Larry are smart in mind games. They boast Oracle in every possible way. The real growth of the systems and users are weak because of the cost, cost , cost.

The cost of oracle installation is much much higher than IBM DB2. (I work on both Oracle, DB2 LUW and z/OS). The license , support, number of DBAs for a project, the Unix based hardware and software are high and over designed. In my shop and in other shops every new application is put in new unix/oracle lisense which is a big waste. In other hand all new business applications in DB2 z/OS is put in the existing environment with system sharing and tuning. Now DB2 on LUW is same like Oracle on Unix/windows systems.

The Mysql’s life is entirly based on the support revinue. Think it as an another Linux and redhat suport. I personnally don’t trust the free stuffs for my personal use and definitely not for corporate nervous system.

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By: BlackJack

BlackJack — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:33:57 +0000

It’s a question of perspective. Wether sales revenue or unit sales volume is used to determine the market share.

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By: Kay Röpke

Kay Röpke — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:31:44 +0000

I doubt Google Trends is producing any usable data for measuring impact of an acquisition, nor should it be portrayed as being relevant, with all due respect.

What strikes me as odd in this discussion is that there seems to be the notion that MySQL would simply go away should this acquisition go through. From the outside (and I know as much about the matters as anyone else, i.e. I have no inside information whatsoever) there is no indication of that at all. Look at InnoDB for an example of this. Everyone was afraid and it turned out to be a good thing.

GPL, anyone? Besides, many MySQL users do not even consider buying an Enterprise subscription, so they do not partake in the “market” as defined by revenue. Sure, they are in some other market definition, but I don’t think that is relevant at all in this discussion.
Remember the outcry when Sun acquired MySQL AB? It turned out not the the end of the world, quite the contrary, actually.

I find it odd to concentrate the inquiry on MySQL vs Oracle, really. But then again, what do I know.

By: Frantisek

Frantisek — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:28:20 +0000

I do not agree with Google Trends being used as an argument.

There are almost no hobbyist using Oracle. Oracle is used by professionals with expensive trainings, who already have basic SQL knowledge.

On the other hand a good part of MySQL userbase are people learning about databases, so they logically generate more queries in Google, especially for basic stuff.

Oracle is learned from books, MySQL from the internet.

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By: mneptok

mneptok — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:47:04 +0000

@Miguel Angel Da Vila Fair enough, let's incorporate some release numbers. Searches for just "oracle" could include people researching information on Pythia. So let's look at specific release numbers so that we know people are looking at databases. MySQL 5 vs Oracle 11g MySQL 5.1 vs Oracle 11g MySQL 5.1 vs Oracle 11g r2 Do these trends strike you as indicative of a database that has 1.5% market share?

By: Che Kristo

Che Kristo — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:14:34 +0000

I agree with you but my only concern is this. HP and IBM are using the uncertainty around Sun to poach customers. Sun pump a huge amount of their resources into open source and will in all likelihood continue to do so under Oracle (of course Oracle will stop some projects) Suns revenues which are in freefall because of this uncertainty are direct contributors to open source. If Sun loses, open source loses. I am not discounting that HP and IBM contribute to OSS but nowhere near the scale of Sun…

Lets hope that this investigation is thourough but timely, for the sake of open source.