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Gossip without Telepathy

For a while now we have had Telepathy support in Gossip based on the work that Xavier Claessens, Eitan Isaacson, Raphael Slinckx and Sjoerd Simons submitted. Recently Xavier decided to start his own project called Empathy using the Gossip user interface and as a direct result, we now have no one maintaining the Telepathy backend in Gossip.

The OTHER problem we have with Gossip at the moment is that it is not fun to hack on. I don’t think it is directly the result of integrating Telepathy into Gossip and I am not saying that Telepathy is the reason it is not fun to hack on, I think the same problem would exist had libgaim materialised and we were able to use that instead.

To summarise, the problem is really insufficient man power and the complexity of supporting multiple protocols.

Recently, Micke, Richard and I decided to remove the Telepathy integration completely and become a Jabber ONLY client. By doing this, we can focus on smaller, nicer and more useful features than just supporting another protocol.

GTK+ Website Review – Part 1

For those that haven’t been reading the gtk-devel list I have spent some time recently reworking the GTK+ website pages. You can read the mail thread here:

For those not interested in the debate, the first draft is available here:

FOSDEM & GTK+ Maintenance


FOSDEM was a hoot this year. I didn’t get a chance to see many talks but I did get a chance to meet people I haven’t met before like Xavier Claessens who is writing the Telepathy backend for Gossip and Nat Friedman who was also experiencing his first time at FOSDEM. It was good to see Nat and find out what he is up to since things have been quiet there for a while. I also met up with Ralph Meijer.

GTK+ Maintenance

I attended the GTK+ talk which was interesting. I don’t think people are really aware of the problems we are having with GTK+ at the moment with the lack of resources to keep things ticking along.


Also discussed was GTK+ 3.0 and if we should break API/ABI compatibility to clean up the code and remove deprecated cruft. I agree that we should do this since I believe it makes maintaining the project easier. This can also be done in stages to cause less interruption to users.

Gossip TELEPATHY branch merged to TRUNK

Finally, Gossip now has the TELEPATHY branch work available on trunk after Xavier Claessens merged the two tonight.

You can see the full announcement here:

I would especially like to thank:

  • Xavier Claessens
  • Eitan Isaacson
  • Raphael Slinckx
  • Sjoerd Simons

They have all worked very hard to help make this happen and of course thank you to the Telepathy team for their support along the way.

Here is a glimpse of what is currently available (bear in mind the interface is generated and needs some love :)

Maintainer 0.4

I have spent an hour or so this past few days updating my maintainer python script so it would work with the new Subversion repository. I must say, thanks for all the hard work that has gone into the move. The whole experience is now much nicer and faster with Subversion.


Oh, and Happy New Year everyone!

Gossip Group Chat Hacking

I added browsing capability so you can view a list of chat rooms on the server of your choice:

I have also spent some time recently improving the whole group chat experience, well, mostly the joining part and overall management of it. Now for example, ALL status information is shown in the window not in some popup dialog or some window. This is a much nicer approach I think. I have also added the ability to reconnect in certain scenarios too:

This should all be available in the new release some time this week.

Maintainer Python Script 0.3

I have spent some time taking the feedback from people on my earlier post I have had today and putting it into the script. The main things that have updated are:

  • Provide a default plain text and HTML template for release notes.
  • Retrieving the description from Bugzilla for a product and using that in the release note (if the default template is used).
  • Add the md5sum of the tarballs in the release note.
  • For po/ChangeLog, accept the language updater’s name to be included in brackets so it isn’t always the commiter’s name used (same as ChangeLog).

I have also provided some information on the site about formatting to make sure the scripts work for you. Most of which people should be doing already.

You can get Maintainer 0.3 here

Maintainer Python Script

With all the releases of Gossip that I have been doing recently, I decided I wasn’t really happy with the current tools available to get translation updates and the whole process of getting bugs fixed and updating the NEWS file. Plus Tim had also mentioned that it was one of many things that take up so much time when releasing projects like GTK+. I can only imagine how long it must take Matthias each release.

So I started to write a tool to make life that little more easier. It is not finished, but it is a start. Some of the current features include:

  • Show updated translations
  • Show fixed bugs
  • Show a summary of bugs fixed and their description
  • Create a release note for sending out announcements

I have been using it with Gossip the last few releases and I have tested it with glib and gtk+ and it works OK – see what you think:

Go to the project page here.

My Personal Hero

This week, the prize goes to Kris.

In Gossip we have been trying to get a flat look but with the expander enabled. This isn’t possible, even with GTK+ 2.10. So after speaking to Kris about it, he said the best way would be an Expander cell renderer. Kris also took the time today to actually write it for us.

So thanks Kris, great work, it looks superb!

Gossip Development

A lot has been happening recently in Gossip.


We added a new branch specifically for Telepathy work called ‘TELEPATHY’ recently and Eitan has been working on that when he can. Xavier Claessens has been working with him at times too which has been great. Now that you can install Telepathy on Edgy using apt because it has been packaged up finally it makes it much easier for others to test.

Release 0.16

I released 0.16 yesterday and it is the last release we will be doing with pre GTK+ 2.10 support. This release has some cool fixes, of which, mostly was done by Xavier Claessens who has had so much time on his hands, I have found it difficult to keep up with the patches he is sending me. This is good of course and I hope it continues with the Telepathy work he is doing too. Some of the other work Xavier has done for us includes retrieving the VCard name details so you can revert from your alias for a contact to the _their_ choosen name. There is more work here to be done here, (like adding a preference to choose if you want to use the vcard or your alias). I have included a screenshot of how it currently looks, good work, thanks Xavier!

Since we have released, I thought I would try some of the coolness that GTK+ 2.10 has to offer, more specifically, the “show-expanders” property in the GtkTreeView that Kris worked on. The end result is below.

Xavier has also written a patch to switch us over to use GtkStatusIcon instead of EggTrayIcon which should land in CVS soon.