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By: ethana2

ethana2 — Fri, 02 May 2008 01:44:32 +0000

Well now they all have specs. Finally.
…so we’ll see which one handles said specs better over the next year or two…

By: menko

menko — Thu, 01 May 2008 14:26:04 +0000

Hey, people (read non pgo-readers) are just getting started to become aware of swfdec: http://www.google.com/trends?q=swfdec%2C+gnash&ctab=0&geo=all&date=ytd&sort=0

By: JustAGuy

JustAGuy — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:23:12 +0000

I pretty much agree with nona on the impression of Swfdec vs. Gnash.
Unfortunately, I also think that Swfdec can state more forcibly what it supports.

However, you’ve dealt with plenty of complicated, dumb and sometimes crazy Flash files. Can’t you make a website with all of them as a test suite?
If the files aren’t yours to share, can you make a list of links (specific links, not “Google Games now works”) of files that Swfdec manages to work on?

This should be a concrete statement. Maybe the Gnash guys will also do something like this. In the best case, it might spurn both projects to work harder on parsing the files they currently don’t.

In summary, keep up the good work, and don’t be discouraged by marketing.

Thank you for writing Swfdec

By: nona

nona — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:59:07 +0000

While I generally have a very good impression of swfdec (wrt to Gnash for instance), this impression is mostly based on completely subjective criteria. It is quite hard to figure out what it’s aiming to support – there’s no real “status” page. Gnash claiming full Flash 7 support at least let’s me know what they’re aiming, or are close to support.

I guess it’s not easy to have a status page with all the different thing AS2/3 support. But some way of gauging progress would be nice.

By: Murray Cumming

Murray Cumming — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:03:14 +0000

Also, with Gnash you seem to be talking about “selling”. And over-selling (false or unrealistic claims) is itself fatal for any marketing effort because people learn.

By: Murray Cumming

Murray Cumming — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:00:18 +0000

But in the same sentence, wikipedia says “discerns consumers’ wants”. People like to have what they want. That seems reciprocal to me. Not that it’s ever that simple or benign, of course.