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	<title>Comments on: UDS, Seed 0.8</title>
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		<title>By: Ian McKellar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/racarr/2009/05/27/uds-seed-08/comment-page-1/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian McKellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience (of trying to upstream Gecko bug fixes) it&#039;s not that Mozilla is uninterested in Linux (they&#039;ve eagerly taken Gtk specific fixes) but they&#039;re interested in Firefox much much more than anything else (they don&#039;t like taking patches for things that don&#039;t affect the Firefox app).

Apple, or at least the team working on WebKit (which includes a bunch of great ex-GNOME hackers) seem to consider WebKit a separate product in a way that Mozilla don&#039;t seem to treat Gecko as. 

Mozilla&#039;s moving towards having comprehensive unit tests like WebKit has which should help them accept patches to the platform that don&#039;t affect Firefox, but I think there&#039;s still a cultural problem. Even the &quot;platform team&quot; at Mozilla effectively works on Firefox as the product, while WebKit is used extensively on different products within Apple so there seems to be less of a one-to-one relationship between browser platform and product.

At least that&#039;s been my experience...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience (of trying to upstream Gecko bug fixes) it&#8217;s not that Mozilla is uninterested in Linux (they&#8217;ve eagerly taken Gtk specific fixes) but they&#8217;re interested in Firefox much much more than anything else (they don&#8217;t like taking patches for things that don&#8217;t affect the Firefox app).</p>
<p>Apple, or at least the team working on WebKit (which includes a bunch of great ex-GNOME hackers) seem to consider WebKit a separate product in a way that Mozilla don&#8217;t seem to treat Gecko as. </p>
<p>Mozilla&#8217;s moving towards having comprehensive unit tests like WebKit has which should help them accept patches to the platform that don&#8217;t affect Firefox, but I think there&#8217;s still a cultural problem. Even the &#8220;platform team&#8221; at Mozilla effectively works on Firefox as the product, while WebKit is used extensively on different products within Apple so there seems to be less of a one-to-one relationship between browser platform and product.</p>
<p>At least that&#8217;s been my experience&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/racarr/2009/05/27/uds-seed-08/comment-page-1/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 13:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work on seed!

IMHO there are three things left to do now:

a) split out JSCore into a separate lib for use by seed (feels stupid to require a full webkit!)

b) port gnome-shell to seed!

c) port popular epiphany extensions to seed and make it the default extension system for 2.28.

After that I would imagine seed being a 1st class GNOME technology and many more project making use of it. That would certainly rock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work on seed!</p>
<p>IMHO there are three things left to do now:</p>
<p>a) split out JSCore into a separate lib for use by seed (feels stupid to require a full webkit!)</p>
<p>b) port gnome-shell to seed!</p>
<p>c) port popular epiphany extensions to seed and make it the default extension system for 2.28.</p>
<p>After that I would imagine seed being a 1st class GNOME technology and many more project making use of it. That would certainly rock!</p>
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		<title>By: Marius Gedminas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/racarr/2009/05/27/uds-seed-08/comment-page-1/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator>Marius Gedminas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 12:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mozilla has almost no interest in Linux&quot; is too harsh: you get blog posts about native Gtk+ widgets and Tango icons.  &quot;Mozilla cares less about Linux than other platforms&quot; would be more accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mozilla has almost no interest in Linux&#8221; is too harsh: you get blog posts about native Gtk+ widgets and Tango icons.  &#8220;Mozilla cares less about Linux than other platforms&#8221; would be more accurate.</p>
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