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	<title>Comments on: iSight @ Linux #3</title>
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		<title>By: Wade Menard</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2006/07/18/isight-linux-3/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade Menard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine, Colin, has done a lot of USB hacking and reverse engineering under OS X. I have forwarded him a link to this entry to see if he might be able to help any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine, Colin, has done a lot of USB hacking and reverse engineering under OS X. I have forwarded him a link to this entry to see if he might be able to help any.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2006/07/18/isight-linux-3/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The developer tools include /Developer/Applications/Utilities/USB Prober.app. Not that I have any idea what it actually does...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The developer tools include /Developer/Applications/Utilities/USB Prober.app. Not that I have any idea what it actually does&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MacSlow</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2006/07/18/isight-linux-3/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>MacSlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work! It&#039;s great to see progress made on this front. I wonder if this will allow non-Apple-notebook users to grab a separately iSight-camera and use it under Linux in the near future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work! It&#8217;s great to see progress made on this front. I wonder if this will allow non-Apple-notebook users to grab a separately iSight-camera and use it under Linux in the near future?</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph GIles</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2006/07/18/isight-linux-3/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph GIles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MacSlow: the external iSights are ieee1394 IIDC devices, and have been supported by [&lt;a href=&quot;http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/coriander/&quot;&gt;http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/coriander/&lt;/a&gt; coriander] for some time. At least for video; apparently audio doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MacSlow: the external iSights are ieee1394 IIDC devices, and have been supported by [<a href="http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/coriander/">http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/coriander/</a> coriander] for some time. At least for video; apparently audio doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Rno</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2006/07/18/isight-linux-3/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Rno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, the one who developped the driver for the ECI ADSL modem for Linux / Unix has made a tool which does sniffing of USB under Windows XP.&lt;p/&gt;Look at here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php&quot;&gt;http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php&lt;/a&gt; and go to the section Synchronisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, the one who developped the driver for the ECI ADSL modem for Linux / Unix has made a tool which does sniffing of USB under Windows XP.
<p />Look at here: <a href="http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php">http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php</a> and go to the section Synchronisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Mellors</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2006/07/18/isight-linux-3/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Mellors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smart Arse ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smart Arse <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2006/07/18/isight-linux-3/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answer you don&#039;t want to hear:  :-)&lt;p/&gt;I have a Minolta scanner that isn&#039;t supported under Linux (I bought it for my Mac).  I offered it up to my family to tinker with (we&#039;re all geeks).  A USB scan showed that the Windows/Mac driver was actually uploading (copyrighted) firmware to it on startup.  This is why it required special scanning software, and why said software took forever to start.  This meant that in order to have a free driver for this scanner, somebody would need to write free firmware for whatever cheapo chip the scanner uses.  Phooey.&lt;p/&gt;A USB scan would show if this is the case.  If it&#039;s uploading gobs of data, it&#039;s probably firmware.  I can imagine that they might do this because, if you upload the latest firmware (included with Mac OS) every time you boot, they never have to worry about &quot;upgrading&quot; the firmware in the classic sense.  But I have no idea if that&#039;s what&#039;s happening here.&lt;p/&gt;Good luck!  If all of the hardware was supported by free Linux drivers, I&#039;d buy one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answer you don&#8217;t want to hear:  <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
<p />I have a Minolta scanner that isn&#8217;t supported under Linux (I bought it for my Mac).  I offered it up to my family to tinker with (we&#8217;re all geeks).  A USB scan showed that the Windows/Mac driver was actually uploading (copyrighted) firmware to it on startup.  This is why it required special scanning software, and why said software took forever to start.  This meant that in order to have a free driver for this scanner, somebody would need to write free firmware for whatever cheapo chip the scanner uses.  Phooey.
<p />A USB scan would show if this is the case.  If it&#8217;s uploading gobs of data, it&#8217;s probably firmware.  I can imagine that they might do this because, if you upload the latest firmware (included with Mac OS) every time you boot, they never have to worry about &#8220;upgrading&#8221; the firmware in the classic sense.  But I have no idea if that&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening here.
<p />Good luck!  If all of the hardware was supported by free Linux drivers, I&#8217;d buy one.</p>
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