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	<title>Comments on: Feisty is Feest</title>
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		<title>By: Rémi Cardona</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2007/05/06/feisty-is-feest/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Rémi Cardona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not an Ubuntu user, but I&#039;ve read there&#039;s an update tool available instead of just editing sources.list and it&#039;ll run some grepmagic on changed configuration files ...&lt;p/&gt;Just FYI, but I don&#039;t know much more.&lt;p/&gt;Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not an Ubuntu user, but I&#8217;ve read there&#8217;s an update tool available instead of just editing sources.list and it&#8217;ll run some grepmagic on changed configuration files &#8230;
<p />Just FYI, but I don&#8217;t know much more.
<p />Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2007/05/06/feisty-is-feest/comment-page-1/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thirst, the update manager (atm there is no cli alternative for this)&lt;br/&gt;And second: there is no direct update from dapper to feisty available...you have to update to edgy first.&lt;p/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading&quot;&gt;http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thirst, the update manager (atm there is no cli alternative for this)<br />And second: there is no direct update from dapper to feisty available&#8230;you have to update to edgy first.
<p /><a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading">http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading</a></p>
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		<title>By: jenn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2007/05/06/feisty-is-feest/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thirst, the update manager (atm there is no cli alternative for this)&quot;&lt;p/&gt;Yes there is, from 6.06 Edgy Eft upwards from the link you provided.  I wonder if it differs from upgrade-manager in terms of problem solving though, so I would stick with that or the Kubuntu equivalent if you have X installed.  The old Debian standby of  dist-upgrade is definitely not recommended at all....&lt;p/&gt;&quot;&lt;br/&gt;Network upgrade for Ubuntu servers (recommended)&lt;p/&gt;If you run an Ubuntu server, you should use the new server upgrade system.&lt;p/&gt;   1.&lt;p/&gt;      Install update-manager-core:&lt;p/&gt;      sudo apt-get install update-manager-core&lt;p/&gt;   2.&lt;p/&gt;      Launch the upgrade tool:&lt;p/&gt;      sudo do-release-upgrade&lt;p/&gt;   3.&lt;p/&gt;      Follow the on-screen instructions&lt;br/&gt;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thirst, the update manager (atm there is no cli alternative for this)&#8221;
<p />Yes there is, from 6.06 Edgy Eft upwards from the link you provided.  I wonder if it differs from upgrade-manager in terms of problem solving though, so I would stick with that or the Kubuntu equivalent if you have X installed.  The old Debian standby of  dist-upgrade is definitely not recommended at all&#8230;.
<p />&#8220;<br />Network upgrade for Ubuntu servers (recommended)
<p />If you run an Ubuntu server, you should use the new server upgrade system.
<p />   1.
<p />      Install update-manager-core:
<p />      sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
<p />   2.
<p />      Launch the upgrade tool:
<p />      sudo do-release-upgrade
<p />   3.
<p />      Follow the on-screen instructions<br />&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2007/05/06/feisty-is-feest/comment-page-1/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As pointed out be several others, using update-manager-core is the way to go. It worked wonderfully for me, better than a few dist-upgrades I had done on Debian. Anyway, as the Ubuntu upgrade page clearly states that dist-upgrade is not soupported I wonder why you tried anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As pointed out be several others, using update-manager-core is the way to go. It worked wonderfully for me, better than a few dist-upgrades I had done on Debian. Anyway, as the Ubuntu upgrade page clearly states that dist-upgrade is not soupported I wonder why you tried anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Dartiguelongue</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2007/05/06/feisty-is-feest/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Dartiguelongue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even though dist-upgrade is not the supported way, I&#039;ve updated my sister&#039;s computer ever since I installed ubuntu on it (5.10) with the update-manager and I never ever had it to upgrade succesfully. Always had to finish the job by hand because for whatever reason it failed in the middle of the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even though dist-upgrade is not the supported way, I&#8217;ve updated my sister&#8217;s computer ever since I installed ubuntu on it (5.10) with the update-manager and I never ever had it to upgrade succesfully. Always had to finish the job by hand because for whatever reason it failed in the middle of the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Lin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2007/05/06/feisty-is-feest/comment-page-1/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update Manager would have been the right way to go.  It does things that a plain dist-upgrade doesn&#039;t; sanely migrating your /etc/inittab etc. to the new init system is one of them.&lt;p/&gt;And even in Debian-land, directly upgrading from Woody to Etch isn&#039;t supported.  I think Dapper to Feisty is supported, but only with update-manager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update Manager would have been the right way to go.  It does things that a plain dist-upgrade doesn&#8217;t; sanely migrating your /etc/inittab etc. to the new init system is one of them.
<p />And even in Debian-land, directly upgrading from Woody to Etch isn&#8217;t supported.  I think Dapper to Feisty is supported, but only with update-manager.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald S. Bultje</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2007/05/06/feisty-is-feest/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronald S. Bultje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting how many people know about this so-called update-manager tool, even though it wasn&#039;t installed, it wasn&#039;t visible on my Dapper desktop, and there was no way for me to know in advance that it was the way to go. If dist-upgrade is not supported, it should have been disabled with a pointer to upgrade-manager in the error message.&lt;p/&gt;Let&#039;s not get me started on needing edgy in between...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting how many people know about this so-called update-manager tool, even though it wasn&#8217;t installed, it wasn&#8217;t visible on my Dapper desktop, and there was no way for me to know in advance that it was the way to go. If dist-upgrade is not supported, it should have been disabled with a pointer to upgrade-manager in the error message.
<p />Let&#8217;s not get me started on needing edgy in between&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Marsh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2007/05/06/feisty-is-feest/comment-page-1/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Marsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ronald,&lt;p/&gt;Because both Edgy and Feisty are not LTS (Long Term Support) distros, there is no automated upgrade notification. If you wait(ed) for the next LTS version, you will see an upgrade notification in your Dapper notification tray.&lt;p/&gt;Update Manager is available from System-&gt;Administration-&gt;Update Manager&lt;p/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To get to Edgy from Dapper, you will need to invoke update-manager manually:&lt;br/&gt;- Ctrl+F2.&lt;br/&gt;- gksudo &#039;update-manager -c -d&#039;&lt;p/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You will then see the little update icon in your notification tray. Clicking this will show you the update manager, and give you the opportunity to upgrade to Feisty.&lt;p/&gt;HTH&lt;br/&gt;Kris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ronald,
<p />Because both Edgy and Feisty are not LTS (Long Term Support) distros, there is no automated upgrade notification. If you wait(ed) for the next LTS version, you will see an upgrade notification in your Dapper notification tray.
<p />Update Manager is available from System-&gt;Administration-&gt;Update Manager
<p />To get to Edgy from Dapper, you will need to invoke update-manager manually:<br />- Ctrl+F2.<br />- gksudo &#8216;update-manager -c -d&#8217;
<p />You will then see the little update icon in your notification tray. Clicking this will show you the update manager, and give you the opportunity to upgrade to Feisty.
<p />HTH<br />Kris</p>
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		<title>By: Holger</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2007/05/06/feisty-is-feest/comment-page-1/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Holger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. dist-upgrade should not be disabled. There are people that know what they are doing and they still use this method. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. dist-upgrade should not be disabled. There are people that know what they are doing and they still use this method. <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Holger</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2007/05/06/feisty-is-feest/comment-page-1/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Holger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this iSight patch which spawned meanwhile and aswell includes Firmware loading using the Kernel interface.&lt;p/&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://i-nz.net/projects/linux-kernel/&quot;&gt;http://i-nz.net/projects/linux-kernel/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p/&gt;The only thing that bothers me is that no iSight support has made it upstream yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this iSight patch which spawned meanwhile and aswell includes Firmware loading using the Kernel interface.
<p /><a href="http://i-nz.net/projects/linux-kernel/">http://i-nz.net/projects/linux-kernel/</a>
<p />The only thing that bothers me is that no iSight support has made it upstream yet&#8230;</p>
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