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	<title>Comments on: Women &#8216;blamed for being raped&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Nermal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2005/11/21/women-blamed-for-being-raped/comment-page-1/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Nermal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted a comment a while ago about young girls dressing and acting as if they wanted to get interest of a sexual nature.&lt;p/&gt;To quote myself:&lt;p/&gt;&quot;Today I was further reminded of the direction this world is taking. 50 years ago, girls would quietly sit on trains, reading or chatting. Today on the train I was treated to 3 girls who could not have been more than 14 years old yelling the lyrics to &#039;Khia - My Neck, My Back&#039; - &quot;My neck, my back, lick my pussy and my crack...&quot;.... Lets just keep blaming the internet for the rise in paedophilia shall we because it&#039;s easier that way. It can&#039;t be the skimpy outfits that breastless 12 year old girls are wearing, or the 14 year old girls yelling at people to go down on them.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a comment a while ago about young girls dressing and acting as if they wanted to get interest of a sexual nature.
<p />To quote myself:
<p />&#8220;Today I was further reminded of the direction this world is taking. 50 years ago, girls would quietly sit on trains, reading or chatting. Today on the train I was treated to 3 girls who could not have been more than 14 years old yelling the lyrics to &#8216;Khia &#8211; My Neck, My Back&#8217; &#8211; &#8220;My neck, my back, lick my pussy and my crack&#8230;&#8221;&#8230;. Lets just keep blaming the internet for the rise in paedophilia shall we because it&#8217;s easier that way. It can&#8217;t be the skimpy outfits that breastless 12 year old girls are wearing, or the 14 year old girls yelling at people to go down on them.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rodrigo Moya</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2005/11/21/women-blamed-for-being-raped/comment-page-1/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodrigo Moya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raping is an act of violence, so if the teengirls are asking for sex and they want to have sex with you, that&#039;s not a rape, it&#039;s an agreed situation by both parts. Having girls singing this should not give you any right at all to rape them. And even if they are just singing to make people angry, still no right at all to rape them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raping is an act of violence, so if the teengirls are asking for sex and they want to have sex with you, that&#8217;s not a rape, it&#8217;s an agreed situation by both parts. Having girls singing this should not give you any right at all to rape them. And even if they are just singing to make people angry, still no right at all to rape them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2005/11/21/women-blamed-for-being-raped/comment-page-1/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &quot;No&quot; is a &quot;No&quot;, no matter what circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;No&#8221; is a &#8220;No&#8221;, no matter what circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: Nermal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2005/11/21/women-blamed-for-being-raped/comment-page-1/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Nermal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey Cooper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2005/11/21/women-blamed-for-being-raped/comment-page-1/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Likely they&#039;d say you were criminally responsible for stealing their car and that they were stupid for leaving the car door open.  Their stupidity doesn&#039;t justify your thieving, it just explains why they were targetted.  I think a lot of people have a problem either understanding that distinction or verbalizing it as something other than &quot;blame&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Likely they&#8217;d say you were criminally responsible for stealing their car and that they were stupid for leaving the car door open.  Their stupidity doesn&#8217;t justify your thieving, it just explains why they were targetted.  I think a lot of people have a problem either understanding that distinction or verbalizing it as something other than &#8220;blame&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: knipknap</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2005/11/21/women-blamed-for-being-raped/comment-page-1/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>knipknap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; I wonder what those people would say if I stole their car &lt;br/&gt;&gt; because &quot;they left the door open and so was calling for &lt;br/&gt;&gt; someone to steal it&quot;.&lt;p/&gt;Do you know that in some countries leaving your car open with the key plugged is illegal, the reason being that this means the person practically asks for the car to be stolen? (Which, for example, in turn might risk that a child could be tempted to steal it, causing an accident in the process.)&lt;p/&gt;Of course, the thief is still guilty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> I wonder what those people would say if I stole their car <br />> because &#8220;they left the door open and so was calling for <br />> someone to steal it&#8221;.
<p />Do you know that in some countries leaving your car open with the key plugged is illegal, the reason being that this means the person practically asks for the car to be stolen? (Which, for example, in turn might risk that a child could be tempted to steal it, causing an accident in the process.)
<p />Of course, the thief is still guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando Hernez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fernando Hernez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course rape is a terrible act. But I think modern evolutionary biology disagrees with your &quot;rape is an act of violence&quot; assertion (which suggests that rape is NOT an act of sex).&lt;p/&gt;Throughout evolution, rape has been a successful evolutionary strategy for some.  The genes don&#039;t care if they are passed on by rape or consensual sex.&lt;p/&gt;Despite the CONSCIOUS female suffering (which I don&#039;t mean to trivialize), the GENES of the female may actually BENEFIT from the test of fitness that rape often involves-- if 10 males attempt rape, but only the strongest/fitest succeeds, that&#039;s &quot;natural selection&quot; at work.&lt;p/&gt;This does not JUSTIFY rape, but it may help to EXPLAIN rape.&lt;p/&gt;Of course, modern condoms and abortion limit or eliminate the genes&#039; benefit of rape (for both participants) but, well, genes don&#039;t &quot;know&quot; about condoms and abortions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course rape is a terrible act. But I think modern evolutionary biology disagrees with your &#8220;rape is an act of violence&#8221; assertion (which suggests that rape is NOT an act of sex).
<p />Throughout evolution, rape has been a successful evolutionary strategy for some.  The genes don&#8217;t care if they are passed on by rape or consensual sex.
<p />Despite the CONSCIOUS female suffering (which I don&#8217;t mean to trivialize), the GENES of the female may actually BENEFIT from the test of fitness that rape often involves&#8211; if 10 males attempt rape, but only the strongest/fitest succeeds, that&#8217;s &#8220;natural selection&#8221; at work.
<p />This does not JUSTIFY rape, but it may help to EXPLAIN rape.
<p />Of course, modern condoms and abortion limit or eliminate the genes&#8217; benefit of rape (for both participants) but, well, genes don&#8217;t &#8220;know&#8221; about condoms and abortions.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Parker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2005/11/21/women-blamed-for-being-raped/comment-page-1/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do you know that in some countries leaving your car open with the key plugged is illegal, the reason being that this means the person practically asks for the car to be stolen? (Which, for example, in turn might risk that a child could be tempted to steal it, causing an accident in the process.)&quot;&lt;p/&gt;Laws like these are pretty stupid - which I believe you might agree with based on your last comment.  There comes a choice where someone makes a decision to do an action that is illegal, unethical, or immoral.&lt;p/&gt;I think that there are cultures, in the west and elsewhere, that feel that the victim is liable for any actions against him or her.  This is not new at all, of course, as before blame was put on demons, or alcohol, or in this case the seductive nature of women.  It is bullshit, of couse, and the blame lies at the feet of the people who make the decisions to do harm.&lt;p/&gt;This problem is no where near its end - if it was a good deal of the legal cases in the United States would be thrown right out of court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you know that in some countries leaving your car open with the key plugged is illegal, the reason being that this means the person practically asks for the car to be stolen? (Which, for example, in turn might risk that a child could be tempted to steal it, causing an accident in the process.)&#8221;
<p />Laws like these are pretty stupid &#8211; which I believe you might agree with based on your last comment.  There comes a choice where someone makes a decision to do an action that is illegal, unethical, or immoral.
<p />I think that there are cultures, in the west and elsewhere, that feel that the victim is liable for any actions against him or her.  This is not new at all, of course, as before blame was put on demons, or alcohol, or in this case the seductive nature of women.  It is bullshit, of couse, and the blame lies at the feet of the people who make the decisions to do harm.
<p />This problem is no where near its end &#8211; if it was a good deal of the legal cases in the United States would be thrown right out of court.</p>
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		<title>By: TopDown</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2005/11/21/women-blamed-for-being-raped/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>TopDown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note about this subject: You need to be careful when you talk about &quot;blame&quot; and crime -- both sides of this argument may, in fact, be saying much the same thing but misunderstanding each other. Or even one side may be deliberately misrepresenting the other.&lt;p/&gt;Let me use an example, without the emotive &quot;rape!&quot; hotbutton... suppose I walk through a rough, poor and crime-ridden neighbourhood waving a big wad of money around. I head down a dark alley and get mugged. &lt;p/&gt;Who&#039;s to blame? Why, the criminal who mugged me, of course. &lt;p/&gt;Who&#039;s to &quot;blame&quot;? Me, for being a bloody idiot and walking into such a situation. &lt;p/&gt;If you put yourself in such a situation by foolish actions, I can well imagine many people thinking &quot;well.. you asked for it.&quot; And they would be right... but that doesn&#039;t mean they are excusing the mugger or absolving him of blame. He&#039;s a criminal and deserves to be punished. I&#039;m a bloody fool who should&#039;ve known better.&lt;p/&gt;Do you see what I&#039;m trying to say? If you stop someone on the street and ask them whether someone is to &quot;blame&quot;, you have to take this into account. The survey isn&#039;t as sinister as it seems... and it was likely either poorly designed, or deliberately worded in order to generate publicity for a cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note about this subject: You need to be careful when you talk about &#8220;blame&#8221; and crime &#8212; both sides of this argument may, in fact, be saying much the same thing but misunderstanding each other. Or even one side may be deliberately misrepresenting the other.
<p />Let me use an example, without the emotive &#8220;rape!&#8221; hotbutton&#8230; suppose I walk through a rough, poor and crime-ridden neighbourhood waving a big wad of money around. I head down a dark alley and get mugged.
<p />Who&#8217;s to blame? Why, the criminal who mugged me, of course.
<p />Who&#8217;s to &#8220;blame&#8221;? Me, for being a bloody idiot and walking into such a situation.
<p />If you put yourself in such a situation by foolish actions, I can well imagine many people thinking &#8220;well.. you asked for it.&#8221; And they would be right&#8230; but that doesn&#8217;t mean they are excusing the mugger or absolving him of blame. He&#8217;s a criminal and deserves to be punished. I&#8217;m a bloody fool who should&#8217;ve known better.
<p />Do you see what I&#8217;m trying to say? If you stop someone on the street and ask them whether someone is to &#8220;blame&#8221;, you have to take this into account. The survey isn&#8217;t as sinister as it seems&#8230; and it was likely either poorly designed, or deliberately worded in order to generate publicity for a cause.</p>
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		<title>By: michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;br/&gt;ho please ! girls just want to have fun !&lt;p/&gt;let people lives and DO NOT TRY TO judge them or to explain them with &quot;genes theories&quot;. &lt;p/&gt;don&#039;t TRY to forget your responsability because of the cloth of the woman&lt;p/&gt;and please LET GIRLS sing what they want, wear what they want, say what they want and do what they want.   &lt;br/&gt;it totally not matters if it shocks you.&lt;p/&gt;I salute man without prejudice&lt;br/&gt;I despise others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ho please ! girls just want to have fun !
<p />let people lives and DO NOT TRY TO judge them or to explain them with &#8220;genes theories&#8221;.
<p />don&#8217;t TRY to forget your responsability because of the cloth of the woman
<p />and please LET GIRLS sing what they want, wear what they want, say what they want and do what they want.   <br />it totally not matters if it shocks you.
<p />I salute man without prejudice<br />I despise others.</p>
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