Comments on: Language differences shrug

By: Jon

Jon — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Could you please explain to me the difference between a struct and a class with entirely public members? Sorry, I am only familiar with the C and C++ interpretations. If it’s the same here, I can’t see what the fuss is about (syntactic sugar)

By: Alan Horkan

Alan Horkan — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

> remain the most similar major languages evar

s/evar/ever ???

either that is a typo or some subtle programmer speak (like iff) that I haven’t learnt yet. please do tell.

By: Michael Pyne

Michael Pyne — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Alan:

“evar” I believe is IRC slang. Whenever I see the word I think of a California Valley girl talking.

“Wow, those are the most similarest languages, like, evar!!”

By: Per Bothner

Per Bothner — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

“JDK 5 has not been replicated in the free software context, and, IMO, shame on the classpath developers for that being true.”

Huh??? Shame on the Gnome developers for <>.

And shame on anybody who freely gives away software for not working harder!

By: Dalibor Topic

Dalibor Topic — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Hi Seth,

Generics support is actually already happening in Classpath itself, associated tools and runimes:

* The gcjx compiler has most of the features done, the eclipse compiler already supports all of 1.5, and jikes is also being hacked on to get the 1.5 language features in.

* The classpath class libraries in fact have a genercis branch already that is being worked on.

* Some of the classpath runtimes, like IKVM, have begun implementing 1.5 runtime feature support.

For most Classpath runtimes I'd expect a switch towards 1.5 to happen later in this year, when the updated language and VM specifications are officially released on paper.

cheers,
dalibor topic

By: verbat

verbat — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Structs are stack allocated while instance of classes are heap allocated, this is the core difference. You know what? the develoiper should not really care about this in a HLL, but MS thought “hey, we would disappoint those C/C++ developers, let’s add some stupid memory management things..”

By: Tim

Tim — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Not that I’ve done any significant programming in C#, but I don’t think the struct/class distinction is about low-level memory management, it’s semantic. Rather than being about stack vs. heap allocation, isn’t the difference one between value semantics (and possibly RAII, I can’t remember – with structs) and reference semantics (with classes)?

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