Lil’ Nugget from Hackfest

February 24, 2010

Command Line Panel Menus. It sucks when you ssh into a server, and you have no idea what the binaries are call. You know like I need to resize a partition on my server and I want to use “Disk Utility”…so  its binary is named…. um… shit! I have no idea. More and more, it makes sense for the command-line and the desktop to be on similar pages. Typically I have X tunnelling on by default for ssh, so running X apps is no big deal, I just rarely want to run a gnome-session and all the pain of having nested panels, weird messages about daemons trying to start etc. I just want to launch a binary, but I can’t remember the damn name.

I was talking about building command line panel menus (maybe into setup), and Mccann had a whack idea I think is great: What if a blank tab-tab in bash (rather than offering to list all 3000 binaries, thanks but no thanks) autocompletes to a choose by number panel menu.

[seth@f-all ~] <tab><tab>
Menus:    1 - Applications     2 - Places      3 - System
Which menu (1-3)? 1
Menus -> Applications
1 - Accessories    2 - Games               3 - Graphics                4 -Internet
5 - Office              6 - Programming   7 - Sound & Video
8 - System Tools
Which menu (1-8)? 8
Menus -> Applications -> System Tools
....    
8 - Terminal 9 - System Monitor A - Disk Utility      B - Another Thing
Launch which application (1-B)? A
Launching Disk Utility: /usr/bin/palimpset --desktop-file --flags

And poof! Disk Utility starts up. Honestly, I can imagine using this to launch apps even when the panel is sitting right there… if I’m already in a terminal w/ my hands on the keyboard. Want to launch Gimp? Just that old familiar…. tab-tab-1-3-7 ;-) The desktop is getting pretty real… all the dbus, packagekit, networkmanager, etc magic have made it more than this funky thin veneer. Might be time to give back to console-land.

48 Responses to “Lil’ Nugget from Hackfest”

  1. FunkyM Says:

    How about just renaming “plimpset” to something like “gnome-disk-utility”? ;)


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  3. Alberto Ruiz Says:

    That hackergotchi makes me think gnome planet is being hosted in GeoCities!

  4. eikonos Says:

    You nearly had me with the example of launching Gimp. Change it to tab-tab-1-3-3-7 and I’m sold.

  5. mdgeorge Says:

    I’ve often wondered why the menus don’t just contain the names of the utilities (i.e. Gnome Disk Utility (plimpset)) or whatever.

  6. pbor Says:

    The idea is great, but I’d love to see the reverse: but menu most of the time sucks also in the desktop… last I tried gnome-shell it had a fairly good search box to launch applications: it would be great to have something similar on the shell


  7. sweet idea

    pbor’s comment made me think of using the numbering scheme for it to give applications ‘phone numbers’ hehe

    for a good time call (number for evolution) o_O

  8. molok Says:

    I’d suggest to simply add a symlink /usr/bin/palimpsest -> /usr/bin/gnome-disk-utility

    Even the package name is gnome-disk-utility!

  9. James Says:

    LOVE IT.
    great idea.
    can’t wait to see this upstream…
    ps: is this in git somewhere or is just a mockup idea…
    cheers!

  10. seth Says:

    Just an idea. Wanna hack it together? :-) Seems like a basic working version could be a 2-day hack?

  11. Juanjo Says:

    Fortunately there are more keyboard shortcuts in the shell besides .

    Oh, wait… you must be joking :)

  12. Thommie Says:

    Why not take something like “gnome do” or “kupfer” and integrate with it a relation between verbose name / purpose of a program and the technical file name? With kupfer it works like that as of now. I can type “text editor” or I can type “gedit”, it matches the same thing. Top-Down menus are not really good, IMHO. Just for consideration.

  13. Thommie Says:

    And for exploratory purposes, I’d rather prefer a radial menu or a pie menu to trim down a list of programs, e.g. by tags from the debian package tagging project. Not that old stuff from the 70ies.


  14. Would be nice with a shell-based interface to Kupfer ;-)


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    What happens when I add applications to the system, and the order of applications changes? All of a sudden 137[enter] might start up a totally different program, right?


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