Comments on: Annoying popups with Evolution? hmm…No more

By: sragavan

sragavan — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:42:34 +0000

Michael, I have seen these mocks before. I wanted to take few of those ideas. But really, I was afraid of the space they occupy. Also lots of tasks don’t give the granularity required to show there. But I liked it really.

I’m still work on it and I’m thinking of making the status bar persistent (just a thought). Im also thinking of having a visual indication that there were few errors that you didn’t notice with a button to open the log. Still under design.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:27:35 +0000

This is the mockup I was talking about btw:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=74331

The error bar would stay “open” and collect further errors until the errors are dismissed (by pressing the trash symbol or something like that) or the users clicks the “more…” button, which would open the log viewer.

The other bars just show the status of actions in progress, collecting various “send” and “receive” actions. This would assure that we would have a limited number of those bars pop up at a time.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:27:01 +0000

This is the mockup I was talking about btw: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=74331

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:21:27 +0000

I am also very glad that development is done in this direction!

The only thing I wonder about is the presentation:

1.) What about people who don’t use the status bar (it can be disabled)

2.) Is displaying multiple actions in the status bar really a good idea? At the size I use the Evo window, it shows three actions at once, none of which is very readable. I did some mockups how to handle this kind of stuff in the past (like banshee). I think this would be much better.

Perhaps we could alternatively just add some kind of “button” to the status bar, which displays something like “3 actions id progress…” and clicking on it would pop up a small window (with no window deco, like the URL in a web browser) with all the actions listed and showing their status and cancel buttons?

By: sragavan

sragavan — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:01:38 +0000

Sean, that is already on my list. My example was more to understand what is there

Thomas: It should be fixed on trunk wrt a empty task on status bar. I’m still doing lots of cleanup here and I’m sure I will give it a new-good look.

Thanks everyone for all the feedback.

By: Erik Snoeijs

Erik Snoeijs — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:39:23 +0000

Just wanted to let you know that this modification would rock!
I use evo at my work and i hate the popups that it generates, our mailserver is old and crooked and runs on a ancient Mac (don’t ask) so lots of timeouts.

You should get yourself a amazon wishlist, i would have bought you something.

By: Travis Reitter

Travis Reitter — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:55:15 +0000

Thanks for this great work!

I switch networks constantly (often to networks without Internet access) at work, so I get blasted with a handful of popup errors from Evolution fairly often.

Now I won’t have to!

By: Sean

Sean — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:48:03 +0000

Making the user manually cancel an operation that he just implicitly canceled by asking for a second operation is still not ideal. I shouldn’t have to click the second message (fixing my mistake of accidentally clicking the first one) and then also click the cancel icon if the first message is large. Simply clicking the second message should be enough – I can’t see the first message even when it’s done since I’ve switched to the second, so why bother continuing with the first?

By: fsteinel

fsteinel — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:33:20 +0000

Thanks.
I’ve noticed, the “Statusbar” jumps up/down while/while not displaying this.

By: Thomas Vander Stichele

Thomas Vander Stichele — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:53:13 +0000

Cool !

Related pet peeve – what is that (…) about anyway ? Why is it there ? Worst case is when I have my Evolution, sitting there, doing nothing at all, and just showing me two message bars at the bottom, each with only (…) and no text…