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	<title>Comments on: Unicode tags &amp; OS2008 media players</title>
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		<title>By: andrunko</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/2008/02/26/unicode-tags-os200/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>andrunko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sergey,

I reimplemented the plugin for Light Media Scanner responsible for parsing mp3 metadata, and one of the reasons I did it, was because the older plugin had some issues with different encodings and so.

I tested here with various different encodings and it seems to work fine.

Could you please send me some files that are badly displayed to my mail so I could check here what is the problem. In the mail, please send me what should be displayed, as I don&#039;t know Russian :D.

It would also be nice to know what canola version you are using.

Some id3 tags are malformed and the encoding field is wrong, but let me check first.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sergey,</p>
<p>I reimplemented the plugin for Light Media Scanner responsible for parsing mp3 metadata, and one of the reasons I did it, was because the older plugin had some issues with different encodings and so.</p>
<p>I tested here with various different encodings and it seems to work fine.</p>
<p>Could you please send me some files that are badly displayed to my mail so I could check here what is the problem. In the mail, please send me what should be displayed, as I don&#8217;t know Russian <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile-big.png' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>It would also be nice to know what canola version you are using.</p>
<p>Some id3 tags are malformed and the encoding field is wrong, but let me check first.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Tobias</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/2008/02/26/unicode-tags-os200/comment-page-1/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quod Libet and ExFalso are very fussy about writing the correct UTF-8 tags.
EasyTag has a history of being non-conformant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quod Libet and ExFalso are very fussy about writing the correct UTF-8 tags.<br />
EasyTag has a history of being non-conformant.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey Udaltsov</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/2008/02/26/unicode-tags-os200/comment-page-1/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey Udaltsov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Llewelyn: I use MP3 files because they were on the disks I bought in Russia;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Llewelyn: I use MP3 files because they were on the disks I bought in Russia;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey Udaltsov</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/2008/02/26/unicode-tags-os200/comment-page-1/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey Udaltsov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gustavo:

The right link is https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?atid=1989&amp;group_id=125&amp;func=browse
(the Canola 2.0 bugs). But the bug 2066 is still not clickable :(

I set the list to UTF-8, ISO8859-15 - no changes. The albums/artists still do not include Russian names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gustavo:</p>
<p>The right link is <a href="https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?atid=1989&#038;group_id=125&#038;func=browse" rel="nofollow">https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?atid=1989&#038;group_id=125&#038;func=browse</a><br />
(the Canola 2.0 bugs). But the bug 2066 is still not clickable <img src='http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/wp-content/mu-plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-sad.png' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I set the list to UTF-8, ISO8859-15 &#8211; no changes. The albums/artists still do not include Russian names.</p>
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		<title>By: Llewelyn_MT</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/2008/02/26/unicode-tags-os200/comment-page-1/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Llewelyn_MT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use RockBox with my hardware MP3 player, or rather Ogg player to be precise (Sandisk Sansa). If there is a cyrylic subset in a Unicode font in OS2008, all should be doable by modifying a few configuration files. 

I know being Polish, that western programmers tend to forget that a simple modification in one place is a showstopper to any simple user not using ANSI/Latin-1 encoding and a major inconvenience to others.

BTW, why do you play MP3 rather then Ogg files?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use RockBox with my hardware MP3 player, or rather Ogg player to be precise (Sandisk Sansa). If there is a cyrylic subset in a Unicode font in OS2008, all should be doable by modifying a few configuration files. </p>
<p>I know being Polish, that western programmers tend to forget that a simple modification in one place is a showstopper to any simple user not using ANSI/Latin-1 encoding and a major inconvenience to others.</p>
<p>BTW, why do you play MP3 rather then Ogg files?</p>
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		<title>By: Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/2008/02/26/unicode-tags-os200/comment-page-1/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&amp;aid=2066&amp;group_id=125&amp;atid=1989 fails to open, at least on our machines.

I&#039;m taking care of these non-ASCII issues and it should work. Please try with last canola2 and remove and then add the media folders again (&quot;Force rescan&quot; is just a trigger to scan for new media or file changes, since the file have not changed they&#039;ll remain untouched).

Also, some ID3 fields have no pre-defined encoding. For these we try some converters in order to get them in UTF-8, the first one in the list is ISO-8859-1. You can change this list with:

cnl-get-prefs canolad
cnl-set-prefs canolad charsets &quot;[&#039;XXXX&#039;, &#039;YYYY&#039;]&quot;

where XXXX and YYYY are iconv charsets.

Thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p><a href="https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&#038;aid=2066&#038;group_id=125&#038;atid=1989" rel="nofollow">https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&#038;aid=2066&#038;group_id=125&#038;atid=1989</a> fails to open, at least on our machines.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m taking care of these non-ASCII issues and it should work. Please try with last canola2 and remove and then add the media folders again (&#8220;Force rescan&#8221; is just a trigger to scan for new media or file changes, since the file have not changed they&#8217;ll remain untouched).</p>
<p>Also, some ID3 fields have no pre-defined encoding. For these we try some converters in order to get them in UTF-8, the first one in the list is ISO-8859-1. You can change this list with:</p>
<p>cnl-get-prefs canolad<br />
cnl-set-prefs canolad charsets &#8220;['XXXX', 'YYYY']&#8221;</p>
<p>where XXXX and YYYY are iconv charsets.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey Udaltsov</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/2008/02/26/unicode-tags-os200/comment-page-1/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey Udaltsov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is even a bug in https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?atid=1989&amp;group_id=125&amp;func=browse

(see bug 2066 - I cannot open it for some reason)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is even a bug in <a href="https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?atid=1989&#038;group_id=125&#038;func=browse" rel="nofollow">https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?atid=1989&#038;group_id=125&#038;func=browse</a></p>
<p>(see bug 2066 &#8211; I cannot open it for some reason)</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey Udaltsov</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/2008/02/26/unicode-tags-os200/comment-page-1/#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey Udaltsov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>teuf: I am sure they are UTF-8 because I tagged them myself using easytag. Though I know - a lot of russian mp3s use cp1251 (crap, crap, crap, I hate windoze for that encoding).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>teuf: I am sure they are UTF-8 because I tagged them myself using easytag. Though I know &#8211; a lot of russian mp3s use cp1251 (crap, crap, crap, I hate windoze for that encoding).</p>
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		<title>By: teuf</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/2008/02/26/unicode-tags-os200/comment-page-1/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>teuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure they are properly tagged as UTF-8 tags ?
Most Russian strings in id3 tags tend to be encoded in some native character set or UTF-8 while the id3 tag encoding is set to iso8859-1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure they are properly tagged as UTF-8 tags ?<br />
Most Russian strings in id3 tags tend to be encoded in some native character set or UTF-8 while the id3 tag encoding is set to iso8859-1.</p>
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