Comments on: Shop open for business! http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/ Just another GNOME Blogs weblog Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:18:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Brad Griffith http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-777 Brad Griffith Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/#comment-777 Hey Christian. Congratulations on the release. I have a couple questions. <br/>First, are you planning to continue this project, adding support for Quicktime and possibly other formats? If not, why?<br/>And, have you discussed deals with any distributions in regard to distributing these codecs in a more seamless/discoverable way? It would be great if I could just purchase the codec package through gnome-app-install in Ubuntu and have the updates available to me through standard apt-get/synaptic/update-manager tools. I know that there are a couple of specs on the ubuntu site about commercial apt channels, etc. <br/>I think easier installation and distribution will be a critical element in the success of such projects (at least insofar as the codecs aren't automatically bundled by distributors/hardware vendors).<br/>Thanks. Hey Christian. Congratulations on the release. I have a couple questions.
First, are you planning to continue this project, adding support for Quicktime and possibly other formats? If not, why?
And, have you discussed deals with any distributions in regard to distributing these codecs in a more seamless/discoverable way? It would be great if I could just purchase the codec package through gnome-app-install in Ubuntu and have the updates available to me through standard apt-get/synaptic/update-manager tools. I know that there are a couple of specs on the ubuntu site about commercial apt channels, etc.
I think easier installation and distribution will be a critical element in the success of such projects (at least insofar as the codecs aren’t automatically bundled by distributors/hardware vendors).
Thanks.

]]> By: Patrick http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-778 Patrick Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/#comment-778 If you buy the "Complete set of playback plugins" option and you release an AAC decoder within the next year will that be considered an update or will you have to buy that decoder separately? If you buy the “Complete set of playback plugins” option and you release an AAC decoder within the next year will that be considered an update or will you have to buy that decoder separately?

]]> By: Christian http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-779 Christian Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/#comment-779 Brad: the answer to both questions is yes. We do plan on doing Quicktime to the extent that we can by supporting the Quicktime container format and the AAC and H264 codecs.<br/>We are also talking with the distributions in order to support this more seamlessly.<br/><p><br/>Patrick, if you buy the complete package now it will include a free update to the new package with AAC included.</p> Brad: the answer to both questions is yes. We do plan on doing Quicktime to the extent that we can by supporting the Quicktime container format and the AAC and H264 codecs.
We are also talking with the distributions in order to support this more seamlessly.

Patrick, if you buy the complete package now it will include a free update to the new package with AAC included.

]]> By: Brad Griffith http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-780 Brad Griffith Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/#comment-780 Awesome. I'll pick up the bundle later tonight. Awesome. I’ll pick up the bundle later tonight.

]]> By: Ronald S. Bultje http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-781 Ronald S. Bultje Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/#comment-781 If you read Eric Raymond's pledge carefully, you'll notice he very much wants someone to distribute this stuff _without_ that being their core business. As he says it, it should be dumped as soon as it's served its purpose. Would Fluendo be willing to do that?<p/>Otherwise, congratulations, good to see one piece of vapour finally being reality. Any idea when will DVD playback plugins be ready? If you read Eric Raymond’s pledge carefully, you’ll notice he very much wants someone to distribute this stuff _without_ that being their core business. As he says it, it should be dumped as soon as it’s served its purpose. Would Fluendo be willing to do that?

Otherwise, congratulations, good to see one piece of vapour finally being reality. Any idea when will DVD playback plugins be ready?

]]> By: Murray Cumming http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-782 Murray Cumming Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/#comment-782 > We realize this is not as painless an install as one could > wish for. But doing packages for a million and one distro's > was not a plausible solution either.<p/>Just pick 2 or 3 distros, and charge extra for it. Though I suppose you might need to earn some money on this first to justify the time.<p/>However, the ability to install codecs in the user's home directory so they don't clash with the distro's packaging system, combined with an installer, makes the current method not so bad.<p/>Well done. > We realize this is not as painless an install as one could > wish for. But doing packages for a million and one distro’s > was not a plausible solution either.

Just pick 2 or 3 distros, and charge extra for it. Though I suppose you might need to earn some money on this first to justify the time.

However, the ability to install codecs in the user’s home directory so they don’t clash with the distro’s packaging system, combined with an installer, makes the current method not so bad.

Well done.

]]> By: Christian http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-783 Christian Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/#comment-783 Ronald: As you might have noticed with Flumotion we are moving toward a service model so we don't bet our future on properietary codecs. <br/><p><br/>As for the DVD player (it will not just be DVD plugins although the codecs of course will be) its still a little off even if Jan is making great progress these days.</p> Ronald: As you might have noticed with Flumotion we are moving toward a service model so we don’t bet our future on properietary codecs.

As for the DVD player (it will not just be DVD plugins although the codecs of course will be) its still a little off even if Jan is making great progress these days.

]]> By: Ronald S. Bultje http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-784 Ronald S. Bultje Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/#comment-784 Good to hear. Would you be willing to give those codecs (the decoders) away free-of-charge to distributions signing for it? Good to hear. Would you be willing to give those codecs (the decoders) away free-of-charge to distributions signing for it?

]]> By: Erik Snoeijs http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-785 Erik Snoeijs Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/#comment-785 Just wanted to say thanks :) i've been waiting for this for a while now.<br/>Just bought the whole pack and it worked like a charm.<br/>Also just love the price, very do-able for just about everyone i think. Just wanted to say thanks :) i’ve been waiting for this for a while now.
Just bought the whole pack and it worked like a charm.
Also just love the price, very do-able for just about everyone i think.

]]> By: Martin http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/comment-page-1/#comment-786 Martin Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/01/15/shop-open-for-business/#comment-786 Why is it more expensive to buy the "Windows Media Playback Bundle" than it is to buy the two components separately? Why is it more expensive to buy the “Windows Media Playback Bundle” than it is to buy the two components separately?

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