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	<title>Comments on: When reason goes out the window</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/11/26/when-reason-goes-out-the-window/comment-page-1/#comment-1351</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AC: it&#039;s ok for people to disagree and take the side of &quot;freedom over technical excellence&quot; and I personally respect that position. In fact, that is typically /my/ position as well, but the problem is that the people arguing that ODF is a superior standard to OOXML in a technical sense seem to me to be out of touch with reality and honestly seem to be spreading FUD.

On the contrary, Michael and Jody are not claiming that OOXML is &quot;freer&quot;, rather they are just voicing their educated (as opposed to their opposition who are not educated) technical views for which they are getting flamed.

Despite whether they like OOXML on a technical standpoint or not is not affecting their contributions in making ODF work well.

People need to stop getting so uneducatedly emotional over this issue, especially since Michael and Jody are both on-board with implementing good ODF support as well. If they were refusing to implement ODF, I could understand the venemous hatred being directed at them, but being that they are friendly towards our needs, I don&#039;t see the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AC: it&#8217;s ok for people to disagree and take the side of &#8220;freedom over technical excellence&#8221; and I personally respect that position. In fact, that is typically /my/ position as well, but the problem is that the people arguing that ODF is a superior standard to OOXML in a technical sense seem to me to be out of touch with reality and honestly seem to be spreading FUD.</p>
<p>On the contrary, Michael and Jody are not claiming that OOXML is &#8220;freer&#8221;, rather they are just voicing their educated (as opposed to their opposition who are not educated) technical views for which they are getting flamed.</p>
<p>Despite whether they like OOXML on a technical standpoint or not is not affecting their contributions in making ODF work well.</p>
<p>People need to stop getting so uneducatedly emotional over this issue, especially since Michael and Jody are both on-board with implementing good ODF support as well. If they were refusing to implement ODF, I could understand the venemous hatred being directed at them, but being that they are friendly towards our needs, I don&#8217;t see the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: techrockets &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; When reason goes out the window</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/11/26/when-reason-goes-out-the-window/comment-page-1/#comment-1350</link>
		<dc:creator>techrockets &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; When reason goes out the window</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more here    Der Beitrag wurde am Monday, den 26. November 2007 um 06:15 Uhr ver&#246;ffentlicht und wurde [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more here    Der Beitrag wurde am Monday, den 26. November 2007 um 06:15 Uhr ver&ouml;ffentlicht und wurde [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ac</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/11/26/when-reason-goes-out-the-window/comment-page-1/#comment-1349</link>
		<dc:creator>ac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you just don&#039;t undertstand, to some people, freedom comes first, techniquel perfection comes second.

It&#039;s ok. People are different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you just don&#8217;t undertstand, to some people, freedom comes first, techniquel perfection comes second.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ok. People are different.</p>
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		<title>By: uraeus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/11/26/when-reason-goes-out-the-window/comment-page-1/#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>uraeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dave: No, I was talking about Michael and about older blog posts of his and discussions I had with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dave: No, I was talking about Michael and about older blog posts of his and discussions I had with him.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/11/26/when-reason-goes-out-the-window/comment-page-1/#comment-1347</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you perhaps mixed up Jody and Michael&#039;s name in the second paragraph? I asume you&#039;re talking about Jody&#039;s post here: 

http://blogs.gnome.org/jody/2007/09/10/odf-vs-oox-asking-the-wrong-questions/

I&#039;m not sure Jody actually comes across as critical of the ODF spreadsheet support as you imply here, he is (as the title suggests) asking a different question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you perhaps mixed up Jody and Michael&#8217;s name in the second paragraph? I asume you&#8217;re talking about Jody&#8217;s post here: </p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.gnome.org/jody/2007/09/10/odf-vs-oox-asking-the-wrong-questions/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.gnome.org/jody/2007/09/10/odf-vs-oox-asking-the-wrong-questions/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure Jody actually comes across as critical of the ODF spreadsheet support as you imply here, he is (as the title suggests) asking a different question.</p>
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		<title>By: jorge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/11/26/when-reason-goes-out-the-window/comment-page-1/#comment-1346</link>
		<dc:creator>jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!</p>
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		<title>By: Dodji</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/11/26/when-reason-goes-out-the-window/comment-page-1/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator>Dodji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen brother, I could not have said it clearer. 

Michael, Jody and the other gnumeric and oo.o hackers,  please, keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen brother, I could not have said it clearer. </p>
<p>Michael, Jody and the other gnumeric and oo.o hackers,  please, keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: mopmop &#187; When reason goes out the window</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/11/26/when-reason-goes-out-the-window/comment-page-1/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>mopmop &#187; When reason goes out the window</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here&#8217;s a quick excerptSo Jody if you are reading this, please don’t listen to the detractors and instead keep up doing such great work. I for one would be sad if I have to install windows on my laptop again because you stopped pushing OOXML in the right &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here&#8217;s a quick excerptSo Jody if you are reading this, please don’t listen to the detractors and instead keep up doing such great work. I for one would be sad if I have to install windows on my laptop again because you stopped pushing OOXML in the right &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuele Bassi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/11/26/when-reason-goes-out-the-window/comment-page-1/#comment-1343</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmanuele Bassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for expressing what I&#039;ve been thinking about the whole OOXML F/LOSS community fiasco.

and kudos to Michael and Jody for their fundamental work on making people switch over to the free software platforms and especially for being so patient and calm in the face of the muppets (whose biggest contribution to the community is probably just drivel on some advocacy list).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for expressing what I&#8217;ve been thinking about the whole OOXML F/LOSS community fiasco.</p>
<p>and kudos to Michael and Jody for their fundamental work on making people switch over to the free software platforms and especially for being so patient and calm in the face of the muppets (whose biggest contribution to the community is probably just drivel on some advocacy list).</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/11/26/when-reason-goes-out-the-window/comment-page-1/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments on OSNEWS are by segedunum, a very well know anti-GNOME troll on that site. I wouldn&#039;t have thought it&#039;s worth wasting much time/emotion on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments on OSNEWS are by segedunum, a very well know anti-GNOME troll on that site. I wouldn&#8217;t have thought it&#8217;s worth wasting much time/emotion on them.</p>
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