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	<title>Comments on: Nokia on Ogg</title>
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		<title>By: pesyw qgpdahyxk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/12/10/nokia-on-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-1385</link>
		<dc:creator>pesyw qgpdahyxk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Madabar.techblog &#187; Nokia vs Ogg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/12/10/nokia-on-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-1370</link>
		<dc:creator>Madabar.techblog &#187; Nokia vs Ogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ][ stefano maffulli &#187; Nokia contro il W3C, scontro sui brevetti software</title>
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		<dc:creator>][ stefano maffulli &#187; Nokia contro il W3C, scontro sui brevetti software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ne parla su vari blog e anche sul forum del palmare (parzialmente basato su software libero) Nokia.  È possibile [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Juri Pakaste</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/12/10/nokia-on-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-1367</link>
		<dc:creator>Juri Pakaste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a minor correction: they don&#039;t eat canapés in MPEG meetings, they eat puppies.</description>
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		<title>By: Peteris Krisjanis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/12/10/nokia-on-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-1366</link>
		<dc:creator>Peteris Krisjanis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jose, I think there are many valid points (from their POV, of course):
* If not some big commercial entity controls it, it must be not perfect;
* The same as above, it must be very hard to implement;
* The same as above, it should be ligit magnet;
* In overall, it doesn&#039;t give &quot;false sense of security&quot; companies need;

Nokia is big, unfortunately, and isn&#039;t ready to take any risks, because their legal dep. won&#039;t simply let them. Also Nokia has big investments in H.264 and other MPEG-4 stuff, so it is rather hard for them to go back to something unknown like Ogg Theorea.

And about Ogg Vorbis - as far as I understood, it will be in first next year&#039;s update. Vorbis and Theora are different things for Nokia, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose, I think there are many valid points (from their POV, of course):<br />
* If not some big commercial entity controls it, it must be not perfect;<br />
* The same as above, it must be very hard to implement;<br />
* The same as above, it should be ligit magnet;<br />
* In overall, it doesn&#8217;t give &#8220;false sense of security&#8221; companies need;</p>
<p>Nokia is big, unfortunately, and isn&#8217;t ready to take any risks, because their legal dep. won&#8217;t simply let them. Also Nokia has big investments in H.264 and other MPEG-4 stuff, so it is rather hard for them to go back to something unknown like Ogg Theorea.</p>
<p>And about Ogg Vorbis &#8211; as far as I understood, it will be in first next year&#8217;s update. Vorbis and Theora are different things for Nokia, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Nokia on Ogg &#124; TheNokiaPhoneBlog.info</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/12/10/nokia-on-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-1365</link>
		<dc:creator>Nokia on Ogg &#124; TheNokiaPhoneBlog.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Slashdot linked this weekend to a Nokia position paper on the use of Ogg in the HTML5 proposal for the media elements. For those of us who have followed the HTML5 discussion for some time there is little new in the position paper, &#8230; Read More [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Slashdot linked this weekend to a Nokia position paper on the use of Ogg in the HTML5 proposal for the media elements. For those of us who have followed the HTML5 discussion for some time there is little new in the position paper, &#8230; Read More [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/12/10/nokia-on-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-1364</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this is why they don&#039;t support Ogg Vorbis in N800.
Open standards and open formats cause many cold sweats in many companies, don&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this is why they don&#8217;t support Ogg Vorbis in N800.<br />
Open standards and open formats cause many cold sweats in many companies, don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: John Drinkwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Drinkwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said, please, do forward to W3 mailing lists (or someone that could share with the work group) :)

He also avoided mentioning Dirac, and while (as I) understand it is neither complete nor standardised, seems like the best future-facing codec to pick for an open high def video codec, any thoughts?</description>
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<p>He also avoided mentioning Dirac, and while (as I) understand it is neither complete nor standardised, seems like the best future-facing codec to pick for an open high def video codec, any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: I Organize &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nokia on Ogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Organize &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nokia on Ogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerpt [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Job Search: Build a Career, Job Listings, Employment &#187; Christian Schaller: Nokia on Ogg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2007/12/10/nokia-on-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-1361</link>
		<dc:creator>Job Search: Build a Career, Job Listings, Employment &#187; Christian Schaller: Nokia on Ogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fauntleroy had some great ideas on this topic.You can read a snippet of the post here.I would point out that Stephan Wenger’s job at Nokia seems to consist of traveling the world attending MPEG meetings eating canap’es, so&#8230; [...]</description>
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