Comments on: Theora in Empathy

By: Odin Omdal Hørthe / Velmont

Odin Omdal Hørthe / Velmont — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:42:08 +0000

I tried 5 FOSS SIP-phones inside NAT. I still haven’t really tried to do it where both people are behind NAT. Empathy kinda-worked.

But; I’ve got servers, is there any software I can easily set up to make Empathy indestructible for all my users? So we can ditch Skype (+normal phones).

I *love* the development, seems we’re finally close to «getting there».

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By: Javier

Javier — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:30:12 +0000

Thanks!!

Is it possible to add this to empathy PPA so we can test it? ( https://launchpad.net/~telepathy/+archive/ppa )

By: Pinkypetals

Pinkypetals — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:29:51 +0000

Thanks for the great mobile news.

By: bojo42

bojo42 — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:37:27 +0000

@Robert: oops, i am sorry that was a bit unclear i meant the end-to-end encryption stuff.

By: Robert McQueen

Robert McQueen — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:55:13 +0000

@bojo42: I don't think the end to end stuff in XMPP will take too long, we've already got a working Jingle state machine, peer to peer SOCKS5 and IBB streams, and an XMPP library inside Salut (our link-local backend) which supports peer to peer connections and TLS, so for us it's just a bit of refactoring to plug all of these things together. In the meantime, I don't make any proscriptions about what users should and shouldn't use. I personally will stick to free software, but if encrypting your voice calls is more important to you than free software, feel free to use what you want.

By: bojo42

bojo42 — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:28:30 +0000

@Robert: great that you have such plans for privacy but as you seem to make really good progress and AFAIK the new end-to-end stuff in XMPP will still take a while, do you think users should be able to use Zfone for the mean time in case Empathys privacy stuff isn’t ready when the basic infrastructure is? of course you have nothing to do with Zfone and it’s even not real OS or FOSS, but i asking this from a user perspective, as i am very keen on the great work you’re doing and can’t wait to use it, but i won’t feel safe use Empathy without basic privacy and Zfone is AFAIK the only working solution for free software right now.

and BTW thank you both for your responses and don’t mind my greedy requesting of privacy features

By: uraeus

uraeus — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:54:48 +0000

@frustphil, bash: Yes, MSN support is in development, Yahoo is on the todo list, but it might take a bit longer to get there (unless someone in the community steps up to th plate that is

@Nick: I don’t have any numbers for you, but the Speex codec was created for this exact sort of thing so it should be fine. And Theora is by today standards a fairly simple and low CPU codec.

As for a framwork yes, in some sense Empathy was created to show of the underlying framework. Telepathy is the framework offered to do this which can be used with a lot of different user interfaces.

By: Nick

Nick — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:40:13 +0000

Great work !! it’s awesome. So many questions

Questions about the experience itself : is there any lag? how cpu intensive it it? what is more important : cpu / graphic card / IP connection (bandwidth/ping) ?

To make this a standard… wouldn’t it be nice to have some framework to integrate empathy in totally different GUIs ? (ie for instance develop a full screen UI for a mobile, or in a car, or a widget on a computer… all kinds of derivatives)

By: Gabe

Gabe — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:16:10 +0000

Nice work! More little updates on the Empathy project would be awesome.

I’ve been using Empathy to make voip calls for a while. All it really needs is a proper dialpad, or some way of storing frequently used phone numbers