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		<title>By: Jimmie Neslusan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-3179</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmie Neslusan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the sensible critique. Me</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas Zander (thomaszander) 's status on Friday, 30-Oct-09 06:00:52 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Zander (thomaszander) 's status on Friday, 30-Oct-09 06:00:52 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/        a few seconds ago  from  Gravity [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  <a href="http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/</a>        a few seconds ago  from  Gravity [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Marc Liotier</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-2686</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Marc Liotier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Android stack, Linux is a mere hardware abstraction layer for the virtual machine running on top of it and supporting cloudy applications that keep the user close to Google.

I have never been fond of Nokia&#039;s software (great hardware though) and I&#039;m suspicious of something supported by a single vendor, but Google&#039;s choices with Android have made me see Maemo in a much more favourable light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Android stack, Linux is a mere hardware abstraction layer for the virtual machine running on top of it and supporting cloudy applications that keep the user close to Google.</p>
<p>I have never been fond of Nokia&#8217;s software (great hardware though) and I&#8217;m suspicious of something supported by a single vendor, but Google&#8217;s choices with Android have made me see Maemo in a much more favourable light.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Paul (segphault) 's status on Thursday, 29-Oct-09 23:18:18 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Paul (segphault) 's status on Thursday, 29-Oct-09 23:18:18 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/        a few seconds ago  from  Gwibber [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  <a href="http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/</a>        a few seconds ago  from  Gwibber [...]</p>
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		<title>By: uraeus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-2676</link>
		<dc:creator>uraeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex: Android like any opensource project does contain some useful code. But the opencore-amr libs wasn&#039;t as much given to the community as it was something the community was able to salvage out of Android. I mean the AMR files where not made public in a way that was useful to anyone outside Android, so it was only due to the effort of the people behind the opencore-amr project to take that code and make it something that could be shared by a lot of projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex: Android like any opensource project does contain some useful code. But the opencore-amr libs wasn&#8217;t as much given to the community as it was something the community was able to salvage out of Android. I mean the AMR files where not made public in a way that was useful to anyone outside Android, so it was only due to the effort of the people behind the opencore-amr project to take that code and make it something that could be shared by a lot of projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Converse</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-2675</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Converse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone seems quick to forget that android gave us the opencore-amr libs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone seems quick to forget that android gave us the opencore-amr libs.</p>
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		<title>By: zecke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-2670</link>
		<dc:creator>zecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Google Chromium team is contributing a lot, the Android team fails to participate in upstream development, send patches, open bug reports, leave a lone producing a clean patch from android to WebKit.org..

Their git branches is a dump from perforce to git and figuring what they actually changed and what they cherry-picked from webkit is quite hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Google Chromium team is contributing a lot, the Android team fails to participate in upstream development, send patches, open bug reports, leave a lone producing a clean patch from android to WebKit.org..</p>
<p>Their git branches is a dump from perforce to git and figuring what they actually changed and what they cherry-picked from webkit is quite hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Xav</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-2669</link>
		<dc:creator>Xav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Android needs a working base system, with a kernel, a GUI, a multimedia system, etc. I&#039;m wondering if simply porting their java VM (Dalvik) to e.g. Maemo would work ? That would be a great platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Android needs a working base system, with a kernel, a GUI, a multimedia system, etc. I&#8217;m wondering if simply porting their java VM (Dalvik) to e.g. Maemo would work ? That would be a great platform.</p>
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		<title>By: uraeus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-2668</link>
		<dc:creator>uraeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob J. Caskey: an advantage of Android is that Google so far has made no promises on the stack beneath their JAVA API. So they can in fact move in a more standard direction with Android without abandoning their current apps. That said the idea that Android apps currently truly works nicely across all devices and resolutions is a illussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/#comment-2666">Rob J. Caskey</a>: an advantage of Android is that Google so far has made no promises on the stack beneath their JAVA API. So they can in fact move in a more standard direction with Android without abandoning their current apps. That said the idea that Android apps currently truly works nicely across all devices and resolutions is a illussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2009/10/28/mobile-linux-use-and-the-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-2667</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s quite unfortunate to see that people are only talking of big players. 

There is other stacks such as pokylinux ( from openhand, bought by intel for moblin http://o-hand.com ), there is lots of stacks directly based on linux for openmoko phone ( like hackable:1, based on gnome-mobile , made by bearstech ), there is indeed webos.

And I think most of them offer a standard linux api when they exist. For example, tangogps, a gps application made for openmoko phones run fine on a laptop with a standard gps. Midori/arora can be used on a mobile device. The whole telepathy stack and gstreamer stack is used on most plateform.

And that&#039;s right the synergy is the key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s quite unfortunate to see that people are only talking of big players. </p>
<p>There is other stacks such as pokylinux ( from openhand, bought by intel for moblin <a href="http://o-hand.com" rel="nofollow">http://o-hand.com</a> ), there is lots of stacks directly based on linux for openmoko phone ( like hackable:1, based on gnome-mobile , made by bearstech ), there is indeed webos.</p>
<p>And I think most of them offer a standard linux api when they exist. For example, tangogps, a gps application made for openmoko phones run fine on a laptop with a standard gps. Midori/arora can be used on a mobile device. The whole telepathy stack and gstreamer stack is used on most plateform.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s right the synergy is the key.</p>
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