Comments on: Together we can rule the Galaxy – Epiphany 2.28 and WebKitGTK+ 1.1.15.x http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1-1-15-x/ Just another GNOME Blogs weblog Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:05:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: nona http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1-1-15-x/comment-page-1/#comment-339 nona Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:40:56 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/?p=99#comment-339 It's great, I've been pining for epiphany-webkit for a long time. Somehow fonts look better than with gecko, not sure if it's my imagination though. A lot of operations are faster. And I can use my bookmarks again - it used to take a long time before my bookmarks drop down (well, I've lived without my bookmarks for so long that I'm not sure they're still useful anymore, but hey). I've noticed a few regressions that have been mentioned before. (webkit's popup menu, so no "Open in new tab" or "Copy image link"). One small regression that I haven't seen mentioned yet: when connecting to a website (I suspect during dns lookup or to make the initial http connection), you can't interrupt loading. If a website is slow to respond, you can't interrupt it. If that webpage is your homepage, it very quickly becomes annoying. In any case, even _with_ all these regressions, I think it already is a better browser than before. Thanks for all your hard work. It’s great, I’ve been pining for epiphany-webkit for a long time. Somehow fonts look better than with gecko, not sure if it’s my imagination though. A lot of operations are faster. And I can use my bookmarks again – it used to take a long time before my bookmarks drop down (well, I’ve lived without my bookmarks for so long that I’m not sure they’re still useful anymore, but hey).

I’ve noticed a few regressions that have been mentioned before. (webkit’s popup menu, so no “Open in new tab” or “Copy image link”). One small regression that I haven’t seen mentioned yet: when connecting to a website (I suspect during dns lookup or to make the initial http connection), you can’t interrupt loading. If a website is slow to respond, you can’t interrupt it. If that webpage is your homepage, it very quickly becomes annoying.

In any case, even _with_ all these regressions, I think it already is a better browser than before. Thanks for all your hard work.

]]> By: Reinout van Schouwen (reinouts) 's status on Sunday, 27-Sep-09 21:42:29 UTC - Identi.ca http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1-1-15-x/comment-page-1/#comment-338 Reinout van Schouwen (reinouts) 's status on Sunday, 27-Sep-09 21:42:29 UTC - Identi.ca Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:43:00 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/?p=99#comment-338 [...] http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1... a few seconds ago from xmpp [...] [...] http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1... a few seconds ago from xmpp [...]

]]> By: xan http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1-1-15-x/comment-page-1/#comment-337 xan Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:54:09 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/?p=99#comment-337 @Tomasz: middle-click to open URL in pasteboard works in master already. The second issue is probably lack of javascript: support, so there's already a bug about it. And the third one works perfectly OK in 2.28.0, so not sure why you think it does not... open a bug with the exact search you are trying. @bob Yeah, the "Open" option in downloads is missing, but it will be reimplemented shortly. And the "Save link as" menu item is already present in master :) To everyone else asking about a Chrome-like architecture: that's a possibility, but it requires a lot of work and would be a major project on itself. A thing we might do to avoid flash taking down the whole browser is to support out-of-process plugin out of the box, which should be easier to implement. @Tomasz:

middle-click to open URL in pasteboard works in master already. The second issue is probably lack of javascript: support, so there’s already a bug about it. And the third one works perfectly OK in 2.28.0, so not sure why you think it does not… open a bug with the exact search you are trying.

@bob

Yeah, the “Open” option in downloads is missing, but it will be reimplemented shortly. And the “Save link as” menu item is already present in master :)

To everyone else asking about a Chrome-like architecture: that’s a possibility, but it requires a lot of work and would be a major project on itself. A thing we might do to avoid flash taking down the whole browser is to support out-of-process plugin out of the box, which should be easier to implement.

]]> By: Tomasz http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1-1-15-x/comment-page-1/#comment-336 Tomasz Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:17:20 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/?p=99#comment-336 Awesome work on WebKit/Epi migration. But release notes are way to optimistic about users not noticing difference. After one hour of using 2.28 I've already stumbled on: - middle-click to open URL from clipboard doesn't work - http://soup.io script-bookmark doesn't work - typing words into URL bar and pressing enter to get them searched on Google doesn't work. So three pretty big regression just at the beginning. I'm going to use Epi for few more days, collect my observation and start filling bugs. Awesome work on WebKit/Epi migration. But release notes are way to optimistic about users not noticing difference. After one hour of using 2.28 I’ve already stumbled on:
- middle-click to open URL from clipboard doesn’t work
- http://soup.io script-bookmark doesn’t work
- typing words into URL bar and pressing enter to get them searched on Google doesn’t work.
So three pretty big regression just at the beginning. I’m going to use Epi for few more days, collect my observation and start filling bugs.

]]> By: bob http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1-1-15-x/comment-page-1/#comment-335 bob Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:08:51 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/?p=99#comment-335 Actually It would be really cool if epiphany supported "open link with application". Then I could use gedit to open any file on the web. Would it be possible to implement this as a plugin or a hidden gconf option? Downloaded files go to ./.gnome2/epiphany/downloads/. It is not obvious how I should get the files out of this directory. The popup notification was placed below the liferea icon. I found my downloaded files using find and grep, but my mother could not have done that. I also tried to open settings preferences to change the download directory, but then epiphany crashed (will file bug). Actually It would have been nice to have the option to "save link as". Then would have solved my problem too. Sorry about the rant. It is good to see you making progress with webkit for the benifit of the rest of us. The long term perspectives are indeed drool-worthy. Actually It would be really cool if epiphany supported “open link with application”. Then I could use gedit to open any file on the web. Would it be possible to implement this as a plugin or a hidden gconf option?

Downloaded files go to ./.gnome2/epiphany/downloads/. It is not obvious how I should get the files out of this directory. The popup notification was placed below the liferea icon. I found my downloaded files using find and grep, but my mother could not have done that.

I also tried to open settings preferences to change the download directory, but then epiphany crashed (will file bug).

Actually It would have been nice to have the option to “save link as”. Then would have solved my problem too.

Sorry about the rant. It is good to see you making progress with webkit for the benifit of the rest of us. The long term perspectives are indeed drool-worthy.

]]> By: bob http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1-1-15-x/comment-page-1/#comment-334 bob Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:33:36 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/?p=99#comment-334 It looks flashier than gecko, but also slightly unstable. Happily debian provides debugging symbols apt-get install epiphany-browser-dbg It looks flashier than gecko, but also slightly unstable. Happily debian provides debugging symbols

apt-get install epiphany-browser-dbg

]]> By: Tom http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1-1-15-x/comment-page-1/#comment-333 Tom Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:39:13 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/?p=99#comment-333 Awesome... I am especially looking forward to caching and better gstreamer/video support :) Besides what you mention it would be great to finally have bookmarking on par with Fx3/Chrome (scalability wise) and the seed extension system also needs some work. Thanks for all the great work! Awesome… I am especially looking forward to caching and better gstreamer/video support :)

Besides what you mention it would be great to finally have bookmarking on par with Fx3/Chrome (scalability wise) and the seed extension system also needs some work.

Thanks for all the great work!

]]> By: Tweets that mention Iocane powder » Blog Archive » Together we can rule the Galaxy – Epiphany 2.28 and WebKitGTK+ 1.1.15.x -- Topsy.com http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1-1-15-x/comment-page-1/#comment-331 Tweets that mention Iocane powder » Blog Archive » Together we can rule the Galaxy – Epiphany 2.28 and WebKitGTK+ 1.1.15.x -- Topsy.com Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:35:39 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/?p=99#comment-331 [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by PostRank – OS and FOSSwiki. FOSSwiki said: Xan Lopez: Together we can rule the Galaxy – Epiphany 2.... http://bit.ly/yoY0U #postrank #opensource http://bit.ly/35I37c [...] [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by PostRank – OS and FOSSwiki. FOSSwiki said: Xan Lopez: Together we can rule the Galaxy – Epiphany 2…. http://bit.ly/yoY0U #postrank #opensource http://bit.ly/35I37c [...]

]]> By: gvorcek http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1-1-15-x/comment-page-1/#comment-330 gvorcek Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:56:28 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/?p=99#comment-330 It would be nice to see download functions moved to nautilus or implemented in tab just like in opera. Popup dialog looks annoying. It would be nice to see download functions moved to nautilus or implemented in tab just like in opera.

Popup dialog looks annoying.

]]> By: Mike http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/2009/09/25/together-we-can-rule-the-galaxy-epiphany-2-28-and-webkitgtk-1-1-15-x/comment-page-1/#comment-329 Mike Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:33:02 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/xan/?p=99#comment-329 Downloading could be outsourced to nautilus, couldn't it? That would be clever ;) Downloading could be outsourced to nautilus, couldn’t it? That would be clever ;)

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