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	<title>Comments on: Adding more protocols to Empathy</title>
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		<title>By: xclaesse</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2008/08/11/adding-more-protocols-to-empathy/comment-page-1/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>xclaesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is Xfire? An IM protocol? If it&#039;s supported by libpurple it should work with empathy.</description>
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		<title>By: Angel </title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2008/08/11/adding-more-protocols-to-empathy/comment-page-1/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about adding Xfire Integration to empathy that would please a lot of people as it&#039;s one of the most sought features on pidgin. (there is a plugin for pidgin http://gfire.info) Empathy looks like a great client but I fear I&#039;ll have to continue to use pidgin in order to stay in contact with my xfire friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about adding Xfire Integration to empathy that would please a lot of people as it&#8217;s one of the most sought features on pidgin. (there is a plugin for pidgin <a href="http://gfire.info)" rel="nofollow">http://gfire.info)</a> Empathy looks like a great client but I fear I&#8217;ll have to continue to use pidgin in order to stay in contact with my xfire friends.</p>
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		<title>By: smcv</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2008/08/11/adding-more-protocols-to-empathy/comment-page-1/#comment-568</link>
		<dc:creator>smcv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;    * chat-room - Chat with multiple users, the XMPP/IRC way, not MSN-like which is private chat where we can invite more members.&quot;

Does Haze ever support this? Check the source code.

&quot;    * chat-room-list - List public rooms on a server, like XMPP/IRC do.&quot;

Does Haze ever support this? Check the source code.

&quot;    * voice-p2p - Private audio call&quot;

Haze does not support this for any protocol.

&quot;    * contact-search -&quot;

Nothing actually implements ContactSearch and we&#039;re fairly confident that its API is terrible. Current spec versions don&#039;t put it in the HTML.

&quot;    * registration-ui -The possibility to register a new account on the server, like XMPP.&quot;

This is supported if and only if the CM offers a boolean &#039;register&#039; parameter for the protocol. You can tell this without needing an account. I doubt Haze supports this for any protocol.

&quot;    * supports-avatars - Does contacts have avatars, can I set my own avatar.&quot;

You should get this from the presence or absence of the Avatars interface rather than from the profile.

&quot;    * supports-alias - Does contacts have alias, can I set my own alias.&quot;

You should get this from the presence or absence of the Aliasing interface rather than from the profile.

&quot;    * supports-roster - Is there a list of contacts for that protocol?&quot;

You should get this by requesting the contact lists you want and seeing if it works, rather than from the profile.

&quot;3) For each of those presence I need to know yes or no they are supported by the protocol:&quot;

You should get this by asking the Connection&#039;s Presence (or SimplePresence) interface. I suspect Haze &quot;supports&quot; the same set of presences for every protocol anyway, though - check the source code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;    * chat-room &#8211; Chat with multiple users, the XMPP/IRC way, not MSN-like which is private chat where we can invite more members.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does Haze ever support this? Check the source code.</p>
<p>&#8221;    * chat-room-list &#8211; List public rooms on a server, like XMPP/IRC do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does Haze ever support this? Check the source code.</p>
<p>&#8221;    * voice-p2p &#8211; Private audio call&#8221;</p>
<p>Haze does not support this for any protocol.</p>
<p>&#8221;    * contact-search -&#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing actually implements ContactSearch and we&#8217;re fairly confident that its API is terrible. Current spec versions don&#8217;t put it in the HTML.</p>
<p>&#8221;    * registration-ui -The possibility to register a new account on the server, like XMPP.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is supported if and only if the CM offers a boolean &#8216;register&#8217; parameter for the protocol. You can tell this without needing an account. I doubt Haze supports this for any protocol.</p>
<p>&#8221;    * supports-avatars &#8211; Does contacts have avatars, can I set my own avatar.&#8221;</p>
<p>You should get this from the presence or absence of the Avatars interface rather than from the profile.</p>
<p>&#8221;    * supports-alias &#8211; Does contacts have alias, can I set my own alias.&#8221;</p>
<p>You should get this from the presence or absence of the Aliasing interface rather than from the profile.</p>
<p>&#8221;    * supports-roster &#8211; Is there a list of contacts for that protocol?&#8221;</p>
<p>You should get this by requesting the contact lists you want and seeing if it works, rather than from the profile.</p>
<p>&#8220;3) For each of those presence I need to know yes or no they are supported by the protocol:&#8221;</p>
<p>You should get this by asking the Connection&#8217;s Presence (or SimplePresence) interface. I suspect Haze &#8220;supports&#8221; the same set of presences for every protocol anyway, though &#8211; check the source code.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Helin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2008/08/11/adding-more-protocols-to-empathy/comment-page-1/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Helin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you&#039;re making a really great job with Empathy! I hope it gets accepted into Ubuntu and OpenSuse, because it&#039;s really the most promising IM client out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you&#8217;re making a really great job with Empathy! I hope it gets accepted into Ubuntu and OpenSuse, because it&#8217;s really the most promising IM client out there!</p>
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		<title>By: xclaesse</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2008/08/11/adding-more-protocols-to-empathy/comment-page-1/#comment-565</link>
		<dc:creator>xclaesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael: Right, SNPP
Those profiles are required by the current MissionControl but we are working on a new dbus spec to replace it which does not require profiles.

In fact we need features supported by the protocol AND implemented by the CM, but most of those features flags are in fact not used by empathy, so it&#039;s not really important.

@Tomasz: Thanks you very much, I added gadu gadu in trunk. Please give it a try as nobody actually tested it!

@JimHu: Thanks you very much, I added QQ in trunk. Please give it a try as nobody actually tested it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2008/08/11/adding-more-protocols-to-empathy/#comment-553">Michael</a>: Right, SNPP<br />
Those profiles are required by the current MissionControl but we are working on a new dbus spec to replace it which does not require profiles.</p>
<p>In fact we need features supported by the protocol AND implemented by the CM, but most of those features flags are in fact not used by empathy, so it&#8217;s not really important.</p>
<p>@Tomasz: Thanks you very much, I added gadu gadu in trunk. Please give it a try as nobody actually tested it!</p>
<p>@JimHu: Thanks you very much, I added QQ in trunk. Please give it a try as nobody actually tested it!</p>
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		<title>By: ganloo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2008/08/11/adding-more-protocols-to-empathy/comment-page-1/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>ganloo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If empathy doesn&#039;t support QQ protocol, there is a few market it will gain in China mainland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If empathy doesn&#8217;t support QQ protocol, there is a few market it will gain in China mainland.</p>
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		<title>By: Alban</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2008/08/11/adding-more-protocols-to-empathy/comment-page-1/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>Alban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; If you got MSN support, you can reach 90+%
&gt; of the instant messenging people on this planet.

Do you have a source for this? Wikipedia says QQ has more active users:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_messaging#User_base

MSN: 294 million active worldwide
QQ: 317.9 million &quot;active&quot; (majority in China)

But this may be true if we consider only western countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; If you got MSN support, you can reach 90+%<br />
&gt; of the instant messenging people on this planet.</p>
<p>Do you have a source for this? Wikipedia says QQ has more active users:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_messaging#User_base" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_messaging#User_base</a></p>
<p>MSN: 294 million active worldwide<br />
QQ: 317.9 million &#8220;active&#8221; (majority in China)</p>
<p>But this may be true if we consider only western countries.</p>
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		<title>By: JimHu</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2008/08/11/adding-more-protocols-to-empathy/comment-page-1/#comment-562</link>
		<dc:creator>JimHu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QQ Procontrol:
* chat-p2p Yes
* chat-room Yes
* chat-room-list Can be done with original QQ client, but not with libpurple yet.
* voice-p2p Can be done with original QQ client, but not with libpurple yet.
* contact-search Can be done with original QQ client, but not with libpurple yet.
* split-account No need
* registration-ui No
* supports-avatars Can be done with original QQ client, but not fully support by libpurple yet.
* supports-alias Yes
* supports-roster No idea, maybe
* video-p2p Can be done with original QQ client, but not with libpurple yet.
* offline Yes
* available Yes
* away Yes
* extended-away Can be done with original QQ client, but not with libpurple yet.
* hidden Yes
* What is the name I should display for qq and xnpp? QQ Should be O.K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QQ Procontrol:<br />
* chat-p2p Yes<br />
* chat-room Yes<br />
* chat-room-list Can be done with original QQ client, but not with libpurple yet.<br />
* voice-p2p Can be done with original QQ client, but not with libpurple yet.<br />
* contact-search Can be done with original QQ client, but not with libpurple yet.<br />
* split-account No need<br />
* registration-ui No<br />
* supports-avatars Can be done with original QQ client, but not fully support by libpurple yet.<br />
* supports-alias Yes<br />
* supports-roster No idea, maybe<br />
* video-p2p Can be done with original QQ client, but not with libpurple yet.<br />
* offline Yes<br />
* available Yes<br />
* away Yes<br />
* extended-away Can be done with original QQ client, but not with libpurple yet.<br />
* hidden Yes<br />
* What is the name I should display for qq and xnpp? QQ Should be O.K.</p>
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		<title>By: 嘉佑</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2008/08/11/adding-more-protocols-to-empathy/comment-page-1/#comment-561</link>
		<dc:creator>嘉佑</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, very good, I hope Empathy more better than Pidgin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, very good, I hope Empathy more better than Pidgin.</p>
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		<title>By: rawsausage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.gnome.org/xclaesse/2008/08/11/adding-more-protocols-to-empathy/comment-page-1/#comment-560</link>
		<dc:creator>rawsausage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you got MSN support, you can reach 90+% of the instant messenging people on this planet. That&#039;s enough for orginary average joes, never mind the whines from couple nerds about their eccentric protocol X not being supported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you got MSN support, you can reach 90+% of the instant messenging people on this planet. That&#8217;s enough for orginary average joes, never mind the whines from couple nerds about their eccentric protocol X not being supported.</p>
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