Comments on: midori, gnash http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/ Just another GNOME Blogs diary Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:53:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: otte http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/comment-page-1/#comment-245 otte Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:15:06 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/#comment-245 You can build swfdec stable against ffmpeg, if you want to. But if you do that, you can just install GStreamer and gstreamer-ffmpeg which gives you the same thing. And yes, the size of code required to build a browser is scary. And it isn't helped by the fact that they all just ship a large monolithic blob of code instead of properly splitting it into reusable parts. But then, a browser is like a desktop confined to a window, so it has to be huge. You can build swfdec stable against ffmpeg, if you want to. But if you do that, you can just install GStreamer and gstreamer-ffmpeg which gives you the same thing.

And yes, the size of code required to build a browser is scary. And it isn’t helped by the fact that they all just ship a large monolithic blob of code instead of properly splitting it into reusable parts. But then, a browser is like a desktop confined to a window, so it has to be huge.

]]> By: zucchi http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/comment-page-1/#comment-241 zucchi Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:06:03 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/#comment-241 well i found totem+gstreamer was asking for money to play mpegs so i removed it - and along went gnash with it. i saw mention of swfdec around but didn't get around to looking into it - there are only so many hours in the day and i'm already burning the midnight oil just trying to do the things I want let alone look at things i'm forced to. but if swfdec uses gstreamer then i wont bother, and will do without flash on that machine. i just installed what was available in the default yum setup on fc9 - i just thought i'd try it out, and mentioned it here because i thought it had some positives. i'm not sure I care enough to really hunt around for everything though, at least not yet. actually on a whim i did checkout webkit from cvs. and waited. over a gigabyte. Hmm. suddenly i lost most interest in bothering with browsers - the complexity and size is just stupid/crazy and I don't have the time right now to play with such a body of code. i was only looking at the gtk+ based ones, so i avoided arora intentionally. it's just a personal thing. well i found totem+gstreamer was asking for money to play mpegs so i removed it – and along went gnash with it. i saw mention of swfdec around but didn’t get around to looking into it – there are only so many hours in the day and i’m already burning the midnight oil just trying to do the things I want let alone look at things i’m forced to. but if swfdec uses gstreamer then i wont bother, and will do without flash on that machine.

i just installed what was available in the default yum setup on fc9 – i just thought i’d try it out, and mentioned it here because i thought it had some positives. i’m not sure I care enough to really hunt around for everything though, at least not yet.

actually on a whim i did checkout webkit from cvs. and waited. over a gigabyte. Hmm. suddenly i lost most interest in bothering with browsers – the complexity and size is just stupid/crazy and I don’t have the time right now to play with such a body of code.

i was only looking at the gtk+ based ones, so i avoided arora intentionally. it’s just a personal thing.

]]> By: Benjamin Meyer http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/comment-page-1/#comment-238 Benjamin Meyer Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:53:13 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/#comment-238 Hey there, I am curious for any thoughts you have on Arora http://code.google.com/p/arora/ which is also webkit based. The startup is quick and while basic it has a lot of the basics, is quite stable and gmail works (as long as you don't log in with the Remember Me checkbox). Although it uses QtWebKit it works very well with the Gtk Qt style and it picks up the gnome icons. Hey there, I am curious for any thoughts you have on Arora http://code.google.com/p/arora/ which is also webkit based. The startup is quick and while basic it has a lot of the basics, is quite stable and gmail works (as long as you don’t log in with the Remember Me checkbox). Although it uses QtWebKit it works very well with the Gtk Qt style and it picks up the gnome icons.

]]> By: Adam Williamson http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/comment-page-1/#comment-237 Adam Williamson Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:27:04 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/#comment-237 Midori's performance of course depends heavily on WebKit. It sounds to me like your distro has an old / badly packaged WebKit, because I just tested, and GMail works fine for me in Midori. I maintain the Midori / WebKit packages for Mandriva; we currently have WebKit svn 34503 built with --enable-svg-experimental , and Midori git from June 17th. As I said, GMail is fine; I can read my mail and compose new mail, etc. Page rendering times for me with Midori seem pretty quick too. It's pretty easy to do a build of Epiphany-webkit. I find that in basic fundamentals it works great, but the deal-breaker for me is that plugins don't work with the Webkit backend, particularly the AdBlock plugin. I can't live without AdBlock. Midori’s performance of course depends heavily on WebKit. It sounds to me like your distro has an old / badly packaged WebKit, because I just tested, and GMail works fine for me in Midori. I maintain the Midori / WebKit packages for Mandriva; we currently have WebKit svn 34503 built with –enable-svg-experimental , and Midori git from June 17th. As I said, GMail is fine; I can read my mail and compose new mail, etc. Page rendering times for me with Midori seem pretty quick too.

It’s pretty easy to do a build of Epiphany-webkit. I find that in basic fundamentals it works great, but the deal-breaker for me is that plugins don’t work with the Webkit backend, particularly the AdBlock plugin. I can’t live without AdBlock.

]]> By: reinouts http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/comment-page-1/#comment-235 reinouts Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:32:56 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/#comment-235 The Epiphany developers could use a hand getting a Webkit release out the door... The Epiphany developers could use a hand getting a Webkit release out the door…

]]> By: Alex Hixon http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/comment-page-1/#comment-234 Alex Hixon Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:30:58 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/#comment-234 Yeah, was just about to say that. swfdec rocks out much more than Gnash in terms of compatability, anyway. Yeah, was just about to say that. swfdec rocks out much more than Gnash in terms of compatability, anyway.

]]> By: otte http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/comment-page-1/#comment-233 otte Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:55:25 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/zucchi/2008/06/27/midori-gnash/#comment-233 Dude, you want swfdec, not Gnash. Dude, you want swfdec, not Gnash.

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