Gnome 3 Will Be Amazing
February 24, 2010
Today, we had a breakthrough; the boldest, baddest synthesis for a desktop we have ever hit upon. For a desktop redesign with a 6 hr genesis it is relatively concrete, its not handwavy, its not buzzword-y, its not taillight chasing. It is targeted at a whole mess of real pains (both little jabs and big aches you barely know are there), and it solves them in elegant,gorgeous, functional ways. Could I write any more bold?
If this pans out, Gnome 3 (esp 3.2, 3.4, 3.6 as the boldness is refined) could be an extremely influential and compelling release.
Hype hype hype my little doves.
As with all things with a concrete target, this design is both huge and small! We don’t claim to have changed the direction of computing forever…. but we hope that this desktop will feel more transparent, more effortless, you’ll stay focused better, yet still understand what’s going on better. And what else do you expect of the core functions of your desktop?
This may amount to a bigger improvement in deep interactions with the UI than any desktop OS in the last decade can boast (now this isn’t really touching apps, so they’ll still be what they are). You will move windows with your mind (no seriously, with your mind: we hope this will make switching window, using menus and all sorts of other tasks subconscious in the same way as drinking from a coke can falls below the notice of your attention; a subconscious physical act not a mental act requiring focus).
If 25% of this design works out half as well as we hope, you will see it copied in Windows and OS/X.
Its not pie in the sky, its not research…. And I’m not going to tell you any specifics in this post. 🙂 Sorry… 🙁
I have a good reason for being a tease: we’re tired from the design sprint. And we want your first look to make at least a little sense. But I had to say something because this morning was so much fun! And we’ll be giving you mockups very soon! Days and hours, not weeks! Plus: seeing is going to make a lot more sense than explaining (even then I bet it will be fuzzy: using is believing! so don’t get too jumpy if the first look isn’t ‘aha!’… long term use by demanding users is a big big deal and not designed for often enough). Do you love the crackrock? I sure do. Lets smoke a big ol’ bowl together, eh?
This is an exciting road. Its going to have big bumps.
I am excited. I am really, really excited. This should scare you. It scares me. But I hope you’ll bear with us; and by bear I mean “help us carry the load”. Help us make this real! Help us refine the bad parts! Help us eliminate the bad sub-designs! Help us shoot flames from our eyes and launch dragons from our missile tubes. Help us break granite with our faces. Descend with us, little lambs, into the labyrinth of chasomagic.
This is it. The eagle has landed. Or it hasn’t. We’ll see. Its gonna be fun either way, so fire up your flamethrowers and don your asbestos murdercloaks.
February 24, 2010 at 7:05 pm
This post feels even more high combined with hackergotchi.
February 24, 2010 at 9:16 pm
If 25% of this design works out half as well as we hope, you will see it copied in Windows and OS/X.
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cmon 25% of gnome3 is a poor implementation of compiz’s functionality
February 24, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Man, you are amazing 🙂
February 24, 2010 at 9:45 pm
I’m absolutely scared ! Waiting to see the new ideas mockups. Thanks to you and the other UX people 😉
February 24, 2010 at 10:06 pm
I’m excited to see the new mock-ups. I already use the shell whenever I need to focus more on what I’m doing — I find it does help me stay more focused on one task at a time.
From my view, there are still some problems with application switching and application launching, so I’m hoping what you’re talking about involves some creative solutions in those areas.
In other news… I can’t run gnome-shell on my netbook because 3D drivers suck on linux, as they always have. This seems to be the practical achilles’ heel of this whole effort… is there any chance of making a 2D version of all of the functionality, sans live updating window previews and what have you?
February 24, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Dude, have you guys revisited the desktop widgets ideas? http://live.gnome.org/Boston2008/GUIHackfest/DesktopWidgets is a bit old on info.
thanks!
February 25, 2010 at 2:53 am
Seems like you are preparing your users for another KDE 4.0 like backlash. Face it, it will come (the backlash) but that is part of anything developed as open-source.
Basically this reinforces the fact that KDE 4.0 needed no apology from its developers …. just as GNOME 3.0 won’t!
February 25, 2010 at 2:54 am
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February 25, 2010 at 4:22 am
Was excited about gnome 3 as well.
But after you use it a while, you’ll see that going upper right all the time just to switch windows is kinda stupid, a task bar work way better imho.
Oh well.
Maybe some awn or docky for that stuff, if it wont overlap with the notification thingy which is supposed to be there… heh
February 25, 2010 at 4:23 am
Anyway, linux fucking sucks when it comes to video drivers, or the companies making them suck… I have a laptop and a tablet pc, I wanna use blender… ati and intel video cards… fail.
February 25, 2010 at 4:24 am
I really hope Ubuntu 10.10 will be the one for me, even if with some compromises here and there.
February 25, 2010 at 4:27 am
I LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE NEW MOCKUPS!
February 25, 2010 at 7:03 am
Man are you pumped! I love the enthusiasm…
Wish you all the best.
“Years wrinkle the face, but to give up enthusiasm wrinkles the soul.” –Watterson Lowe
February 25, 2010 at 8:00 am
Dread Knight Sayd:
going upper right all the time just to switch windows is kinda stupid
as stupid as going to the bottom of the screen all the time just to switch windows, imo.
Seth, your hackergotchi rocks !!!
February 25, 2010 at 8:03 am
After playing a bit with GNOME Shell and hating it instantly, I am cautious about anything GNOME 3 related, so I cautiously await for the mockups too (the hype above makes me even more cautious).
February 25, 2010 at 8:33 am
Man, I just hope you look at existing solutions. For example this gnome-do in ‘docky’ mode is absolute productivity booster.
I saw your post on tab-tab-1-2-4, compare it to ‘al-space gi’ using gnome-do.
I just can’t help I do not see this principle in gnome-shell. I do not want to move my mouse to left corner, summon menu that suddenly covers my whole screen. A nifty gnome-du just shows unobtrusively, listens to your input and then just execute.
Please take a look and spend few days with gnome-do, you will love it.
Best regads,
robert
February 25, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Gnome-do is amazing !
For Gnome3, there are not many people that are such enthusiastic about it.
I am enthusiastic and I hope ant believe in somethings new. Something new to discover. Somethings about what you can say “this is the Gnome Desktop” without the others to respond “it looks like Windows” or, “it is a remake of OS-X”.
Until today, every Desktop Environment is based on the same things : a desktop bar menus and buttons. Gnome-do allows you already (a bit) to work without any desktop bars and I hope Gnome3 comes with some innovation !
(sorry for my bad English)
February 25, 2010 at 2:35 pm
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February 25, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Gnome groundbreaking? LOL, someone is deluded.
I can’t even point the “my pictures” screensaver to a picture folder of one’s choosing. Why? Because your decision to select which folders you wish to use as a screensaver is “broken” according to the devs. You have to use some kludgy workaround that requires far too much fiddling, up to and including a separate screensaver download.
Gnome can’t do the simple stuff, what makes these folks think they can do the harder stuff?
February 25, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Sorry, I shouldn’t have said that out loud, it isn’t really polite to say such things on other people’s blogs … please delete it if you can.
February 26, 2010 at 2:16 am
There’s good science behind upperleft/right. The only real science in design, quite honestly. Check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitts's_law
The short version is: “things on screen edges are time-wise much closer to your mouse because you can keep accelerating… the slow part of hitting something with the mouse is the aiming… the corners are even faster because they are edges in both dimensions”.
And we’re talking MUCH faster here. So if you believe window switching is just about the most common activity (or you want it to be… that’s an agenda you could reasonably have depending on how you wanted windows to work)… upper right corner being associated with window switching isn’t too stupid.
February 26, 2010 at 2:19 am
I’m curious, do you hate expose or the specifics of the gnome 3 shell? What parts of it put you off? As I use the current gnome shell, I’d summarize it as combining expose with search-to-open… with the added cute wrinkle that you can use search to window switch to (e.g. windowskey/fling -> fire -> enter and you’re in firefox. This is not as visible as I’d like, but having seen that flow, I find gnome shell rather fast.
I do find the visual transition rather jarring. Its an interesting problem that I think will be smoothed out.
February 26, 2010 at 2:20 am
amazing point.
February 26, 2010 at 2:23 am
gnome-do is really cool! i definitely mine it. the tab-tab-1-2-4 is more a joke than anything… though I really do want that feature when I’m ssh-ed into a server. still, if my hands are in a terminal, I’d use it.
FWIW, gnome shell as it stands today would be roughly like gnome-do: win -> gi -> enter
A lil’ slower than a leap, but not hugely. Maybe we should consider leap like access, it fits with the goal of making the desktop disappear.
February 26, 2010 at 2:24 am
people work differently than eachother sometimes. not a bad thing, really. cool thing about linux: tons of options!
February 26, 2010 at 2:25 am
Yeah. The backlash is going to suck, and is probably 100% independent of whether the changes are good or not (if they suck, we’ll be flamed, if they’re awesome we’ll be flamed). Ah well.
February 26, 2010 at 8:39 am
My experience with GNOME Shell is based on the preview that was included in Fedora 12, which I know is not current, the user experience was changed a bit in the meantime.
There were a lot of things getting into my way when trying to get stuff done with it, I will try to remember a few:
– switching between two open windows is something I do *all the time* and having to wait for the needed animation is a waste of time and waiting the screen zoom is tiresome;
– I need the taskbar with the list of open windows, so I can access the applications fast and I need launchers on the panel so I can start the most commonly used apps fast;
– I found hard to adapt of using the Activities panel and was not able to easily find a way to get out from the Shell;
– I don’t like my *full* name displayed *all the time* on the screen;
– I don’t like my desktop black;
– there were many more, but for my sanity I managed to forget about some :p
Talking with Mo Duffy about how I disliked the experience, she asked me to record a video of how I use the desktop, if you are interested in that (is big, long and boring), here’s the video: http://nicubunu.blip.tv/file/3209992/
Oh, I almost forgot about that: it was so slooooooooooooooooooooow…
February 27, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Or you’re wasted. We’ll see.
February 28, 2010 at 6:32 am
i’m sold. i just propose one minor change: implement dragon launchers for launching dragons. launching dragons by any other means would be ridiculous.
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How about making it easier to add key shortcuts for your favorite apps and encouraging people to do so? I bet there’s a lot of people that don’t even know there’s that option… using shortcuts is by far the fastest way to open apps imo, maybe even make it so when you try to open an already open app it just raises and focus… easy and efficient, and since most would be multiple window apps now have tabs it would work great.
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