Erm… instead of having one ApplicationCatalog there’s now another one. What a wonderful way of guaranteeing neither one is going to be complete or up to date as their roles don’t seem to be complementing each other but are apparently completely overlapping.
And same goes for the maemo wiki – instead of using the (more or less) well known wiki there’s now a new wiki on the block, ironically to collect all how-to’s, tips and tricks from various sources (forums, blogs, web sites… funny that wikis weren’t mentioned.)
I’m all for having complementary sites (like maemo vs. Nokia 770) as it helps everyone to maintain focus in their own areas. But doing overlapping work without coordination is at minimum duplicating effort, but at worst fracturing the user base (think IM protocols) when no one knows for certain where to find all relevant information.
Personally I’m anticipating confusion. Where can I find all announced applications in the future? ApplicationCatalog used to be that place. If there are two wikis collecting tips and tricks from different sources, could someone set up a third one to collect them all in one place?
Note: after re-reading the original announcement more carefully it seems that maybe the focus is on the Nokia 770 and its users and not the development platform, but the relationship to maemo.org wasn’t explained too clearly. (Software Section as an alternative place to post their application to inform the Maemo community
confuses me…)
So maybe the ApplicationCatalog should be moved to ITT, and keep moving applications from the ApplicationCatalogWip when they reach user friend maturity?
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I think the community needs a wiki that is directed more to not-linux users. Most info that’s in the maemo wiki now is confusing for ‘normal’ (Windows) users. I know that the two howto’s that are in the internettablettalk wiki now might be stuff for the maemo wiki, but that might change…
I have a 770 folder in my browser’s bookmark toolbar. ITT & Maemo are just two of thirty bookmarks in it and they’re at the top. I also have a folder there for 770 blogs. I’m adding yours to it. About 8 years ago I spent $10,000 to travel to Helsinki and Amsterdam to drop off a couple of PowerPC computers running my touchscreen software to someone in each city. Nothing came of either of those two particular efforts. A couple of years later I did the same thing in Singapore. Earlier this year I did the same thing in Holland, again. I was attempting to seed the development of my work and promote acceptance of it. That is the kind of devotion I have to the ultimate success of what the 770 makes possible. The 770 is integral to what I personally hope to achieve. The 770 makes it unnecessary for me to seed people with hardware anymore and the information on the Internet makes it possible for me to leave the configuration of hardware and software behind me, too. I personally need as many diverse sources of 770 info available as possible to make my own work more efficient.
What was first not imagined was later conceived of as impossible. It next became difficult and prohibitively expensive to do, and then, easier and less costly. Later it became easy, simple and affordable. Finally, it became a commodity that was presumed to be necessary, and people assumed that it had always been a part of life.
In this case I’m talking about something that you carry with you that, ultimately, gives you access to all the people in the world and to all the power of all the computers in the world. Moreover, it does this with all the ease of use and accessibility that makes the language you speak, the location you’re at, the money you don’t have and the genius that you lack absolutely no problem at all.
I like the way you can find aplication in maemo site. It is clear and fast. I have visited internettablettalk.com and the information is copy & paste of maemo´s one. So I don´t understand what to do twice the same job.
It’s premature to judge, on the first day, the software wiki at ITT. At Maemo the explanation of ‘Contributing Applications’ is this: “If you have written an application using the maemo development platform and would like to announce it then visit our Application Catalog wiki page and add some information about your project.”
OK, so what about applications that are not written using Maemo? Where do we make mention of those?
Nokia’s Dr. Ari Jaaksi stated, “The goal of the (Maemo) organization is to provide Nokia with the best possible open source based technology and collaborate directly with various open source projects.”
OK, so what about applications that are not ‘open source’? Where do we make mention of those?
How can you not understand the need for places to talk about uses of the 770 that are not local apps based on Maemo or ar not open source apps? If Maemo wants to be versatile enough to host all the information about all the apps, Maemo or not, and about all the apps, open source or not (and that means commercial apps!) then it has to withdraw its current statements and embrace every kind of application. If Maemo wants to continue to exclude non-Maemo apps and apps which are not open source, then that’s fine, but it can’t complain about other software sites that do NOT exclude non-Maemo apps and apps which are NOT open source.
On what basis does anyone to tell anybody that it is confusing or, to even hint that it is wrong(!), to provide a place on the Internet which catalogs ANY kind of application that makes the 770 useful to someone?