PackageKit with gentoo or frugalware

Today I stumbled on the following blog post – basically, it's a developer from gentoo saying that because PackageKit won't ask the user for compile flags it's unsuitable for use in gentoo. The author then goes on to define an overly complex abstraction for package management suitable for gentoo.

I appreciate gentoo is not a “install epiphany” type distro, more a “configure firefox with libxml and libsvg” type distro. That's fine; choice is a great thing, but I don't think implementing yet another abstraction is going to work for a distro like that.
And then I found the following IRC log about frugalware, also doing the same with a frugalware specific gfpm. Really, some of these frugalware guys need to be hit with a big clue stick – read the IRC log and see what I mean. They don't want to ship pam, or PolicyKit, or any software install tool that “depend(s) on any external software like dbus”. Indeed.