Recently, I’ve been working on a few widgets for libhandy to provide applications more flexibility with how to handle their titlebars.
But doesn’t GTK already allow this? Let’s take a look.
First, GTK has a widget called
GtkHeaderBar. It looks like a titlebar, has a close button, a title, a subtitle and allows to add widgets at the left or right sides, or to replace title and subtitle with a custom widget.
gtk_window_set_titlebar() function that allows to set a widget as a custom titlebar. GTK will place that widget above the main window area, and then it can be dragged to move the window, and will handle right click menu, double click and middle click. Additionally, GTK will draw client-side window border and/or shadows and provide an area to resize the window with. Naturally,
GtkHeaderBar is a perfect fit for it, although nothing is preventing other widgets from being titlebars.
If nothing is set,
GtkWindow will use a
GtkHeaderBar with a special style class (
.default-decoration) as a titlebar on Wayland, or legacy decorations on X11.
This approach works well if an application just wants to have a titlebar with some widgets in it. However, in many cases it’s more complex. Let’s take a look at some cases that are difficult or impossible to implement right now.
A very common case is for dual-pane applications to have a separate titlebar for each pane, also known as split headerbars. To do this, you have to create a horizontal box with the panes divided by a separator, and put it into the window. Then you create another box containing two headerbars and another separator, and set that box as a titlebar. Then you need to ensure the width of the headerbars matches the content panes, either by hardcoding it or using a horizontal
GtkSizeGroup. And then there’s the whole problem of ensuring the window controls show up on the correct headerbars.
Fast forward to 2020, now we have libhandy and
HdyLeaflet. Now instead of two boxes you use two leaflets, and now it’s necessary to use a
GtkSizeGroup for each pane, to ensure the folding animation doesn’t go out of sync. For window controls libhandy provides
HdyHeaderGroup, so at least that’s simple. Also, you wrap the titlebar leaflet into a
And then leaflet gained support for back/forward swipe gestures. Since we have two leaflets, their swipe progress has to be synchronized via a
HdySwipeGroup, so that brings the number of the helper “group” objects to four.
Somewhat related, many applications have multiple views, with a separate
GtkHeaderBar for each view. This includes the split headerbar case on mobile, where the two leaflets shows only one view at a time.
It’s implemented via
GtkStack. One stack in the window has the views, and another stack in titlebar has headerbars, then you always change their visible child at the same time. libhandy 1.0 will have
HdyDeck allowing back/forward swipes the same way
HdyLeaflet does, and so the two decks must be synchronized via a
Stack navigation and split headerbars can be combined, with some views having split headerbars, and others having just one headerbar. Either way, you have to duplicate the whole hierarchy between the window and titlebar and keep it in sync, however complex it might be.
In both cases you might want to animate the transition. With swipes it’s pretty much necessary. And doing that breaks the window corners during the transition.
libhandy has a workaround for that called
HdyTitleBar. It’s a simple
GtkBin subclass that looks like a headerbar. Combined with the fact Adwaita CSS specifies transparent background for any nested headerbars, it means you can put a stack/box/leaflet/deck/anything with headerbars into a
HdyTitleBar and animate them without moving the background, working around the corners issue. It’s not perfect, as tall content (such as a separator) would still overlap the corners, but it works in most cases.
Some applications want to hide headerbar to focus on the content. The easiest way to do it is to fade out the headerbar and just have a blank space there.
Since the titlebar is a separate area from the window, there’s no content behind it, so fading it out leaves an unsightly blank area.
There are ways to mitigate that. For example, one could hide the titlebar widget completely. That’s what UberWriter, now Apostrophe, does in the latest development version:
It works, but the code is not pretty. It uses two headerbars: one in the titlebar area, another one in the window area in a
GtkOverlay. To hide the titlebar, it immediately hides the headerbar in the titlebar area, then shows the headerbar inside the window and fades it out. Then it adds some CSS to add round corners on the window instead of headerbar, and makes sure nothing overlaps them. Oh, and it also shifts the scroll position so that the text doesn’t jump.
Another way is to use a revealer with a slide transition inside the headerbar area. Then it’s possible to shift scroll position on each frame of the transition, although it leads to a visual glitch with window corners.
So there is no way right now to do it cleanly and without glitches, although you can get pretty close.
I said above that Apostrophe uses two headerbars. Well, I lied! It uses three, the third one for fullscreen mode.
Like the titlebars drawn by X11 window managers,
GtkWindow‘s titlebar area is hidden in fullscreen. At the same time, our HIG recommends to still have a headerbar in fullscreen, but to autohide it. The easiest way for apps to implement this is to have another headerbar inside a
GtkOverlay in the window content area, that’s normally hidden and only shows up in fullscreen mode. Then it can be shown and hidden by application whenever wanted.
However, this means you have to have two (or more!) headerbars, or to reparent it from titlebar to the revealer when entering fullscreen and then back to titlebar when exiting it, like
DzlApplicationWIndow from libdazzle does.
Showing content behind the headerbar
What, you were expecting a screenshot? Since the titlebar area is completely separate from the window, it’s impossible to show content behind it.
Similarly, things such as showing scrolling content behind titlebar, like macOS and Windows do, are impossible.
All of these problems are caused by the fact titlebar is separate from the window. If that wasn’t the case, it would all be a lot simpler:
- For split headerbars and stack navigation you would be able to use a single box/stack/leaflet/deck spanning the whole window, no need to duplicate the hierarchy in the titlebar.
- Autohiding would be a matter of using
GtkOverlay, just like in fullscreen.
- The headerbar wouldn’t be hidden in fullscreen, so it would be possible to reuse the widget without reparenting or duplicating it.
- Similarly, showing content behind the headerbar would be perfectly possible with just
So, how do we eliminate the split? Obviously, it’s not an option for GTK3. There’s GTK4, but it would be nice to have something working in the meantime. This means libhandy.
The first thing we need to have headerbar inside the window hierarchy is to make it act like a titlebar.
GtkHeaderBar isn’t enough: while it has the overall layout and window controls, it doesn’t handle dragging, or right-click menu, or double click, or middle click. All of this is provided automatically for the titlebar widget, whatever that widget is, and that’s it.
To solve that, libhandy now has a
HdyWindowHandle widget. It’s a
GtkBin subclass that acts as a “titlebar area”. Dragging it will move the window, right clicking will produce a menu etc.
So, when a headerbar is used inside a window, it can be wrapped into a
HdyWindowHandle and it will just work. It can also be used to easily make the whole window draggable. Or a random part of it for whatever reason.
HdyWindowHandle has a downside of being easy to forget when creating a headerbar. If it’s not used, the window looks exactly the same, but the headerbar can’t be dragged. It’s especially easy to miss if you’re testing your app on a phone, where the window can’t be moved, or usually move windows while holding the Super key.
And it just so happened that (for unrelated reasons), libhandy has had a fork of
HdyHeaderBar. It now features the same draggability and right/double/middle click handling as
HdyWindowHandle, so can be used as is.
One thing about the headerbars being in a separate area from the window content is that they can easily have round corners. While the window background can have round corners via CSS (and in fact that’s what elementary OS has been doing with the
.rounded style class), nothing prevents the window content from overlapping them. This is true for the titlebar as well (see
HdyTitleBar), but there’s a lot less chance of that happening.
However, if we want to display content behind the headerbar, or to autohide the headerbar, it’s pretty much guaranteed to happen.
One way to prevent that is to mask the corners. This guarantees nothing can ever overlap them. And that’s exactly what
HdyApplicationWindow are doing.
Coincidentally, GTK has no public API to inspect
border-radius CSS property for each corner separately, so these windows also have round bottom corners.
They also draw a sheen on top of the window, which is normally on the headerbar. It looks the same way if a headerbar is used on top of the window, but still looks good if it’s hidden.
However, the corners come at a cost: they cause an overhead when OpenGL is used. Normally GTK has a fast path for when nothing is overlapping OpenGL drawing (such as inside a
GtkGLArea). However, masking corners requires a redirection, so the gains from that are negated.
On my machine the only place I was able to notice it is in GNOME Games running particularly “heavy” games on a workspace with lots of windows.
At the same time I wasn’t able to notice any differences with Web or Boxes when using
Additionally, in maximized, tiled or fullscreen mode, or simply with
border-radius: 0; there’s no need to mask anything, so there should be no difference compared to regular
These widgets have already landed in libhandy master, and can be seen in action in nightly builds of GNOME Games. However, there are some pieces of the puzzle missing right now.
While the same headerbar can be used in windowed and fullscreen modes, there’s no widget to show it next to the content in windowed mode like in a
GtkBox, and on top of the content in fullscreen mode like in a
GtkOverlay. Right now I have such a widget implemented in Games, but it will need to be in libhandy so that each application doesn’t have to reimplement it.
HdyHeaderGroup only supports
GtkHeaderBar, but not
HdyHeaderBar, so for split headerbars you still have to use
Additionally, the headerbar in the window won’t automatically have
.titlebar style class, so won’t pick up styles such as the
.devel cog and gradient, so either everybody must manually add it, or
HdyHeaderBar could have it by default.
And most importantly, it needs to be implemented for GTK4.
But meanwhile, enjoy freeform round windows!
12 thoughts on “On windows and titlebars”
Waow, the (black) art of handling headerbars… :-) It’s great to have the libhandy library taking care of all these details.
That’s all very cool, but what about all the apps that can’t be moved to headerbars because they currently rely on menubars? There is no plausible path for them to transition, except redesigning the entire UI without any guidance from Gnome. Where would all the menu items go? Nobody knows.
As far as I’m aware it’s not possible to put the menubar in the header because it’s not a draggable widget, and it’s against HIG guidelines to do so in any case.
Nor does the HIG propose any standardized alternative to the menubar (like a command/tool palette/popover for example). Unless this happens, all the best GTK apps such as GIMP, Evolution, Inkscape and Shotcut will forever be stuck with the traditional design. This means the GTK app ecosystem will never provide a coherent user experience in real world scenarios, since the UI will be completely different across apps. What’s the point of all the design polish if the end result is still completely disjointed?
Looking forward to the time when Gnome will finally acknowledge the problem and propose some solution.
Those apps can just continue to use menubars. And yes, it’s perfectly possible to put a menubar into a headerbar, or into a titlebar.
No, they won’t integrate well into GNOME, but they aren’t GNOME apps anyway (other than Evolution in the past). GTK isn’t only GNOME, and it’s not GNOME’s job to adapt third-party apps, it’s in their interest to have better UI if they want to.
> without any guidance
That’s false, all they have to do is to ask the designers.
> standardized alternative to the menubar
There isn’t a universal solution, it’s all case by case. The difference is that case by case solutions work well for their specific case, while menubars work bad everywhere.
Anyway, that has nothing to do with what I’m doing, and frankly I don’t care much about those apps. Legacy is legacy.
> it’s in their interest to have better UI if they want to.
My point was that given all the desire in the world, that’s simply impossible. Otherwise, the CSD initiative would have enjoyed some, at least among a few established GTK apps. But even Transmission rejected the HIG. They don’t view the current HIG as a good design. I think it’s a good starting point but the lack of a menubar substitute is an insuperable barrier.
> That’s false, all they have to do is to ask the designers.
No guidance that’s off the shelf. People who create apps for Mac don’t need to call up Apple for guidance because the HIG is complete, covers all categories.
> it’s not GNOME’s job to adapt third-party apps
So it’s not Gnome’s job but also all they have to do is ask Gnome designers for help.
It is in Gnome’s interest to deliver a coherent desktop UX to their users, no? That’s not possible given the current approach of pretending non-Gnome apps don’t matter, because you can’t use the desktop with just Gnome apps.
> There isn’t a universal solution, it’s all case by case
Of course there is. That’s what the menubars, ribbons and command-palettes are. There’s a reason these patterns exist for desktop apps. For mobile, it’s sidebar+hamburger. It’s a standard entry-point from which to explore the full feature-set. That’s also what the headerbar purports to be however it simply cannot accommodate desktop apps with large feature-sets.
> frankly I don’t care much about those apps. Legacy is legacy.
Care or not, you’re consigning pretty all the “must-have” GTK apps to the dustbin of history, apps that are actually competitive based on the features. And it’s a short list: Inkscape, Gimp, Evol, Flowblade, maybe Qalculate too. Wireguard used to be GTK but they switched to Qt.
You could call them “legacy” if alternatives were in the pipeline but that’s obviously not the case. Then of course outside GTK, pretty much everything is menubar+SSD on the desktop. QT and electron apps could theoretically be ported to headerbars and become “native” but without removing the stumbling block it’s impossible.
Qt’s cross-platform support is superior to GTKs, the thing has dozens of backends, that’s why a lot of cross-platform applications use Qt.
Electron apps can never use native headerbars because they don’t render widgets with GTK. It should however be possible to get a HdyWindow with Electron and render inside of it, which is similar to what happens with Electron on macOS, but there’s no work on that and given Chromium/Electrons Linux support (or rather, lack of it), I don’t see it happening anytime soon.
The “menubar replacement” question is something we’d like to address, but it’s not as big a deal as you make it out to be. Most applications just aren’t (and don’t need to be) that complex and do fine without something like this.
Also: While it would be great to have a drop-in menubar replacement Inkscape et al. can just use, that doesn’t replace actual design work on individual applications. That includes making hard choices about what features to include, and how prominently to expose them.
Menubars encourage just adding random features and dumping them in the menu, and that’s a big part of why they’re problematic. While a new UI pattern (e.g. a command palette) would be great to have, it wouldn’t magically redesign Inkscape and GIMP, because it’s far from the only problem with those apps’ interfaces. GIMP even already has something like a command palette, while also having a menubar…
But as I said, we definitely want to have a pattern and easy-to-use GTK widget for developers for these cases, it’s mostly a question of someone figuring out the best way to implement it, and making it happen. If you’re interested in helping with this, check out https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/os-mockups/issues/35
I agree with everything in your comment and am very happy you guys are taking a hard look at this problem.
There is certainly a lot of other work to be done to modernize applications like Inkscape but the “menu-bar” issue is still the critical stumbling block in transitioning these apps to headerbars. I think it maybe worthwhile looking at how Mac apps handle complexity and maybe incorporate some of those guidelines.
There is one comment in the issue that I agree with strongly, and the idea of making a command palette universal. while some apps need it more and others need it less, consistency and muscle memory is important, particularly when the user is new to the application. Such a decision should be easy to justify if the functionality of help docs and shortcuts is integrated into palette.
Transmission has always had terrible UI IMO. Compare to https://flathub.org/apps/details/de.haeckerfelix.Fragments
> because the HIG is complete, covers all categories.
Have you even read the GNOME HIG? It does have a section about menubars.
> So it’s not Gnome’s job but also all they have to do is ask Gnome designers for help.
These isn’t an either/or thing.
> It is in Gnome’s interest to deliver a coherent desktop UX to their users, no?
We need new apps, not a few select old apps to integrate well in expense of everything else.
> Of course there is. That’s what the menubars, ribbons and command-palettes are.
Ha ha. https://twitter.com/snwh/status/1227612005231742976
Also, see Tobias’ response. And also read https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2019/12/04/there-is-no-linux-platform-1/ and https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2020/03/25/there-is-no-linux-platform-2/
Anyway, if you want to rant about menubars, do it elsewhere, not in a comments to a random post in a random blog. ?️
Not going to continue this discussion.
A palette or ribbon widget will be a welcome addition. Apple Pages has this, Microsoft Word has this. GNOME HIG need some common approach for more complex apps too and different to “ask designers”.
You’re welcome to work on it. :)
How about Foliate? Does it do it differently?
Haven’t checked, but from the gif looks like it just uses a revealer and it only works because content isn’t vertically scrolling. :) In other words, as soon as you want to show more content behind the hidden headerbar, see Apostrophe.