The Boston summit is well underway, time for some update on what is happening.
Around 20 people got together Saturday morning and, after bagels and coffee got together in a room and collected topics that everybody was interested in working on. With Christian in attendance, gnome-builder was high on the list, but OSTree and gnome-continuous also showed up several times on the list.
Our first session was discussing issues of application writers with GTK+. Examples that were mentioned are the headerbar child order changing between 3.10 and 3.12, and icon sizes changing for some icons between 3.12 and 3.14 . We haven’t come to any great conclusions as to what we can do here, other than being careful about changes. GTK+ has a README file that gets updated with release notes for each major release, but it is not very visible. I will make an effort to draw attention to such potentially problematic changes earlier in the cycle.
Another kind of problem that was pointed out is that the old way of doing action-based menus with GtkAction and GtkUIBuilder has been deprecated, but the ‘new way’ with GAction, GMenuModel and GtkApplication has not really been fully developed yet; at least, there is not great documentation for migrating from the old to the new, or for just starting from scratch with the new way. The HowDoI‘s for this are a start, but not sufficient.
After the morning session, Richard Stallman came by and spent an hour with us, discussing the history of free software, current challenges, and how GNOME fits into this larger picture from his perspective.
In the afternoon, we had a long session discussion ‘future apps’, which is hard to summarize. It revolved around runtimes, sdks, bundling, pros and cons of btrfs vs ostree, portals, how to get apps ported to it, what to do about qt apps. This thread covers a lot of the same ground.
Over breakfast, we talked about the best way to communicate with a webkit webview process, which somehow led us to kdbus. Takeaways from this discussion:
- We (GNOME release team) should push for getting all users of webkit ported to webkit2 this cycle
- We should create a document that explains what application and service authors and distributors need to do when porting to kdbus
After breakfast, we started out with a live demo of gnome-builder, which looks really promising. Christian is reusing a lot of existing things, from gtksourceview over devhelp to gitg and glade. But having a polished, unified application bringing it all together makes a real difference!
As this session was winding down, I started testing a GNOME 3.14.0 Wayland session with the goal of recording as many of the smaller (and larger) issues as possible in bugs. The result so far can be found here. While I reported a long list of Wayland issues today, all is not bad. It was no problem at all to write this blog post in a Wayland session!
Thanks to Red Hat and Codethink, who are sponsoring this event