Using email addresses as OpenID identities (almost)

On the OpenID specs mailing list, there was another discussion about using email addresses as OpenID identifiers. So far it has mostly covered existing ground, but there was one comment that interested me: a report that you can log in to many OpenID RPs by entering a Yahoo email address.

Now there certainly isn’t any Yahoo-specific code in the standard OpenID libraries, so you might wonder what is going on here. We can get some idea by using the python-openid library:

>>> from import discover
>>> claimed_id, services = discover('')
>>> claimed_id
>>> services[0].type_uris
>>> services[0].server_url
>>> services[0].isOPIdentifier()

So we can see that running the discovery algorithm on the email address has resulted in Yahoo’s standard identifier select endpoint. What we’ve actually seen here is the effect of Section 7.2 at work:

3. Otherwise, the input SHOULD be treated as an http URL; if it does not include a “http” or “https” scheme, the Identifier MUST be prefixed with the string “http://”.

So the email address is normalised to the URL (which is treated the same as, which is then used for discovery. As shown above, this results in an identifier select request so works for all Yahoo users.

I wonder if the Yahoo developers realised that this would happen and set things up accordingly? If not, then this is a happy accident. It isn’t quite the same as having support for email addresses in OpenID since the user may end up having to enter their email address a second time in the OP if they don’t already have a session cookie.

It is certainly better than the RP presenting an error if the user accidentally enters an email address into the identity field. It seems like something that any OP offering email addresses to its users should implement.

This Post Has 5 Comments

  1. Kevin Turner

    The thing to keep in mind though is this is currently an accident, and not a supported use case. The HTTP-fetching code in many OpenID implementations doesn’t really know what to do with the user@ part of the URL, i.e. it’ll try to use it as a hostname instead of translating it to parameters for basic auth, and it’ll break.

    So you’re better off just typing in “”, really.

  2. Armin Ronacher

    That’s against the spec though. HTTP URLs must not have a authentification part. That’s reserved for FTP and some others.

  3. James Henstridge

    Kevin: I agree that typing “” is easier and what users should be directed to use. I just found it interesting that an approximation of the user’s intent happens if they enter their email address.

    Armin: it is true that the HTTP RFC doesn’t specify handling of the userinfo portion of the authority section, but does seem to be supported by most implementations (they probably do URI generic syntax processing before any HTTP-specific processing). I agree that this isn’t the sort of thing that you’d want to start relying on, but it is nice that it half works though.

  4. Chris Cunningham

    I agree that this isn’t the sort of thing that you’d want to start relying on

    That’d be why you wouldn’t be wanting to implicitly condone it.

    – Chris

  5. James Henstridge

    Chris: I’m not arguing that providers should tell their users to enter email addresses into OpenID forms: giving them a shorter constant string is definitely the better option.

    However if users do enter their email address anyway, if it is possible to give the desired behaviour why not do so?

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